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But binary is the inevitable consequence of decades of moaning about human error.
You can’t have consistency and common sense because every human thinks differently.
I’d rather swallow getting stupid rules right more often than depending upon n the “interpretation” or “common sense” of an official who will be accused of “interpreting” it differently than the ref the previous week, and lead to the endless whaling about “all we want is consistency”
I have no problem with the concept of VAR, I like it. We now no longer get bad offsides for instance. That in itself is massive. Got us to a CL final.
But rules need to evolve and in this case, the referee watching it needs to apply them properly.
I wasn’t sure. Still aren’t. Ironic that that was one of the few assists Moura has managed though.
deadleyledley didn’t say he was ‘crippled’ just hurt so why say that?
As I said before neither of us are doctors so we don’t know how he was affected
This sort of thing just highlights your agenda and doesn’t make any sense
He has strengths which is why three respected managers pick him and, like a lot of players he has weaknesses which are clearly offset by his strengths which you fail to acknowledge
It's not really clear who you're debating here me or Wilder....
(I posted the WIlder link in the spirit of giving the bloke a nod for being even-handed having shat all over VAR rightfully a few times before when on the receiving end of what he believed were shit decisions... )
I've criticised numerous aspects officiating; VAR, rules (both writing of and subsequent poor application of) and human effort. I'm not just blindly waving a stick and saying "VAR sucks!". Not mentioned prior but it is my distinct belief we are nurturing a new breed of passive refs not prepared to be responsible for making calls. Also, why no review of the blatant fore-arm stroke on Sonny?
Offsides can possibly be percieved as a VAR win; yes, but that alone doesn't placate the broader custerfuck which is unfolding in the wake of VAR being introduced.
Let’s not pretend you do t have a massive agenda here Baz. Pretty sure you weren’t as quick to acknowledge Ndombele’s injuries when he was getting slaughtered.
You are watching it with your own eyes, both vids, that is not a player that is struggling with an injury that is preventing him from tracking a runner he’s stood next to or then just observing what is happening with Aurier and taking two steps to help him.
It was shit. Just own this one Baz.Or you’ll make me post more examples, and you won’t like it.
It looked shit I agree but if he wasn’t 100% then that might explain it
You’re a fine one to talk about agendas Blakey and I really don’t care how much time you want to waste posting any more clips because you won't change my mind
It will be interesting if he’s not injured if he’s selected on Monday
But what went before was an even bigger clusterfuck IMO. Every week games being decided by wrong decisions, especially offside. Every week the refereeing was the topic. Major games decided by flawed “common sense” and human error.
I believe this is at least a step toward a more consistent form of officiating, but it will take refining over a few years. But even if we have just eradicated offside mistakes, and a percentage of other shit but kept some human flaws and stupid laws, that’s still a massive improvement for me. I don’t buy this “stops the game” argument, the game stops anyway, all the time. Offside flags spoiled celebrations constantly. Etc.
No Baz, that’s the point, you’re the fine one to talk about agendas.
Saying no matter what shit things you see Sisdoko do, won’t change your opinion of him is clearly an agenda. It’s not rational or objective, it ignores evidence, So how can you lecture other people about agendas?
If it looks shit, smells like shit, tastes like shit....chances are it probably is shit.
I don’t think he’ll play Monday anyway, three straight games and that last one was awful. If Mourinho keeps doing the same stupid shit Poch did, he’ll be going the same way pretty soon. And I don’t just mean Sissoko.
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It still is; lets not kid ourselves otherwise.
I believe this is at least a step toward a more consistent form of officiating, but it will take refining over a few years. But even if we have just eradicated offside mistakes, and a percentage of other shit but kept some human flaws and stupid laws, that’s still a massive improvement for me. I don’t buy this “stops the game” argument, the game stops anyway, all the time. Offside flags spoiled celebrations constantly. Etc.
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To a small degree, I agree with what you're saying about stoppages, BUT aside from once in a blue moon when a line-o will over-rule a ref., we never got multi-minute 'maybe' stoppages after every other significant incident? ...Essentially, off-side or foul was called; goal was disallowed and the game carried on. This 'should or shouldn't I celebrate' scenario is a newly created phenomena.
Ball went out of play in the build up to a United goal the other day... Such basic stuff as that are still not being eradicated; yet in other areas the fabric of the game is being altered to make the non-binary; binary.
Instead; why not eliminate all line calls from the ref's jurisdiction and let them focus on the non binary and clamp down on them not applying the letter of the law in terms of shirt pulling, obstructing quick FKs etc. etc.?
Not gonna pretend I wouldn't bitch and moan about refs in the past; but i certainly didn't request an increasingly sterile game where match's are still being fucked up by shit decisions and selectively deciding when and when not to adhere to certain rules.
What ability is that? Be realistic. We don't have the ability at the moment. I don't like it anymore than you do but I have to accept it because it is an indisputable fact based on our results and position in the PL.
Now you're nitpicking. It was an 8 x1 hour episodes series and it was extremely informative. If you've not seen it, get down off your high horse until you have. And stop picking fights, will you? Debate is one thing as you have so many times pointed out to other posters you clearly don't respect but you're just being insulting.
BTW, you are now on ignore because you are an arrogant dickhead who thinks he knows everything, but doesn't and cannot understand why anyone would disagree with him. I suggest you do the same and we'll just keep out of each other's way. It's for the best.
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You condemn an entire sport on the basis that they swear a lot behind the scenes.... Like the very sport you're here to discuss isn't similarly ridden with locker-room profanity?
What pretentious drivel.... You then want to preach to me about "high horses"?
LOL
Bearing in mind you're definition of "insult" here is purely figurative; just maybe I find some of the diatribes you cyclically spit out to be "insulting" too?
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Yes cutting words on my part, but by the same token a fair critique. Shame you haven't got the gumption to follow up on your priot posturing and address my words.
Ignore button is a handy get-out, but it doesn't change the fact that you'd rather flounce than "debate" your position.... Perhaps your words aren't that heartfelt afterall?
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We go way back don't we.....
Not universally, no.... Fine with that tho.
Just have an aversion to bullshit....
Plenty of jokes, points and agreement exchanged by myself; just less likely with certain people.
Im talking years gone by. Since I can remember favouring Spurs. They never had the best team. Mostly because, they the only team in the top 8 that actually comply with Fifa Fair play rules. There has never been a rich boss simply pumping money into the club. United are even selling shares. It shouldn't be allowed. Its a business that should look after itself. Today players are hyped and cost more than some countries because Fifa has allowed it to happen. Much as I sometimes dispise never winning, I celebrate that we always battled. Our current group of players are too hyped with having come second a few seasons ago. As far as Im concerned, you wanna leave, please vacate. That includes Harry Kane.
Unfortunately we now believe that we have a divine right to be in the top 6 or top 4.
Truth is that we built a way of playing with decent players. Rushed the sacking of Poch, the most successful manager of all time and now we are moaning about everything.
If we take stock. We have an overpaid manager, unhappy staff and a team that doesn't play as a team. We are not going to be challenging for the title any time soon, but may win a cup, Jose usually manages that. Welcome to our future.
On the bright side Sheff U beat Chelski 3-0 and Chelsea hardly had a shot on target.
I knew someone would disagree but YES imo !
He finished higher than any other manager.
For dedication ,it was Billie Nick, but would he have done so well now with prima donnas asking to double their wages?
It would be very interesting to see Shankly or Busby in this era of player power.
Poch's football changed our style to pressing instead of believing that we could pass our way to success. My favourite was Jol because he gave me fresh hope in Spurs and that was the start of the revolution, almost derailed by Ramos etc.
It wasn't a disagree.... It was a query.... A grab for clarity....
Not even phrased as our most successful of all time but THE most successful of all time?
That's an outrageous claim for a man with zero trophies... Who didn't innovate... Who to your later point never had to juggle galactico egos.... Who struggled on his end of player recruitment....
Poch rehabbed the soul of this club after a shitty spell and took us to the brink of glory and I had a ball but as much as I get romance in football; I can't get my head round that.
Poch took us to 2nd position in the league and the CL Final; he also took us into the top four a number of years in a row and all on a relatively meagre budget.
I think he is one of our most successful managers, he couldn't get over the finish line but no spurs manager has won us a championship since 61.
Bill Nick stands alone in the modern era, then the General Burkinshaw, I'd put Poch just below the General - who, let's not forget, was the manager when we were relegated but was given the time to get us back up - something not afforded to Poch.
I think he is one of our most successful managers, he couldn't get over the finish line but no spurs manager has won us a championship since 61.
Bill Nick stands alone in the modern era, then the General Burkinshaw, I'd put Poch just below the General - who, let's not forget, was the manager when we were relegated but was given the time to get us back up - something not afforded to Poch.