Hindsight is always 20/20, pal.
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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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Every manager can be backed and still not win because WINNING INVOLVES A LOT MORE THAN BEING BACKED.
It’s not that hard to understand. Back the manager until the cows come home and you won’t magically start winning against Man City or other clubs with much more means.
So why did Liverpool win things?
Yeah well if you want to be a pedant about it
More that people could understand when we had a smaller stadium that we didn't have resources to compete.
Then came Poch, packed Wembley stadiums and CL revenue but he will still left short.
Let’s first acknowledge that Liverpool are a bigger, richer, more successful club than us in every way and have been for a very long time. Agree?
Next, Liverpool have won one league title by having a generational manager and every transfer for a couple of years being above expectations. Robertson, Salah, Mané became top players… Allison and van Dijk were excellent gambles (most expensive keeper and defender ever).
So a huge club got some luck - exceptional transfers and an elite manager in all at the same time - and still only managed one league title in 7 years.
There’s no doubt in my mind that Poch held us back. Good man manager but tactically weak. Klopp is/was miles ahead of Poch.
Winning is hardHere's the thing. If Levy does back his managers, which is the drum you keep banging, why do they all fail to win anything and end up getting the sack?
15%ish higher wages to revenue percentage for Liverpool couldn't make a difference though of course.
So those successful gambles on Allison and Van Dijk played a part. Then we are agreed.
They spent the money they got from Coutinho on 2 elite level players for record level investments. We spent the Bale money on 7 players. There is a difference in model and mentality there.
You say they won 1 league title but you are being disingenuous because they also won a Champions League and plenty of other domestic cups.
Mane was set to come to Spurs, at the training ground and Levy refused to pay his wage demands. Rpbertson and Salah were transfers very much within our wheelhouse. If you swap Son for Salah we come out equal, Mane matched by Kane coming through, Robertson for Walker... pretty much every step of the way we matched up with them aside from VVD and Allison.
So Klopp to Spurs would have seen us win things and Liverpool stay behind us?
And less important than expanding the property and entertainment portfolio off the back of our football club.
"Poch held us back"
What a load of utter bullshit nonsense. Every single non Spurs or neutral football fan / commentator would laugh in your face at such dribbling garbage
Winning on the pitch, or at least trying to win, is clearly a much higher priority for their owners than it is for ours
Klopp would’ve won things at Spurs. No doubt. He’s a proven winner. Poch wasted prime years of some of the best players we had in recent history. Poch still hasn’t proven he can win
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Of course but you’re speaking with hindsight. Nobody thought Salah would become the player he has… he was at fiorentina having failed in his first try in the PL. Every transfer has risk and luck involved and Liverpool were both skilful AND lucky.
I don’t know why you’re using Liverpool as an example like we are supposed to be on their level? The only reason we’re anywhere near this conversation is because of our phenomenal sustained growth on and off the field over the past 20 years. When they won the CL in 2005 they were in a different galaxy to us.
Maybe because other teams exist...........Here's the thing. If Levy does back his managers, which is the drum you keep banging, why do they all fail to win anything and end up getting the sack?
they're allowed to win too.
Can I ask and I'd honestly love you to answer...Here's the thing. If Levy does back his managers, which is the drum you keep banging, why do they all fail to win anything and end up getting the sack?
do you believe genuinely that if Levy fully backed Ange the we defintely win the league.
simple as that? is that what you think?