Tanguy Ndombele

Ndombele attempts hollywood passes 95% of the time?
Nope. But he does hold onto the ball and try to engineer one of those mental dribbles a bit too much. Let's say he plays simple passses 60% of the time and tries to dribble and play an ambitious pass 40% of the time.

I think it should be a bit more 50/50. It's why I think that's why Mou plays him higher up the pitch rather than his former no 8, box to box role.
 
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His acceleration looks so much better in this vid

My two cents re this is because in the 8 role he is running at the defence.
It’s one of the disadvantages of playing him in the 10 role - he constantly gets the ball in tight spaces and or with his back to goal.
Also Ligue 1 dosent have quite the same quality re his opposition.
 
Nope. But he does hold onto the ball and try to engineer one of those mental dribbles a bit too much. Let's say he plays simple passses 60% of the time and tries to dribble and play an ambitious pass 40% of the time.

I think it would be a bit more 50/50. It's why I think Mou plays him higher up the pitch rather than his former no 8, box to box role.
thats why hes knackered after an hour because of the energy that them dribbles take out of him, luckily hes so good he very rarely loses the ball. see a thing with grealish interview and he said about KDB being great etc etc, made a great point that with KDB you never know what hes going to do as he has so much variety to his game. he can play it easy, go on a dribble, or play a hollywood ball. all comes down to football I.Q and knowing what to do and when.
 

theromanianjackass

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Nope. But he does hold onto the ball and try to engineer one of those mental dribbles a bit too much. Let's say he plays simple passses 60% of the time and tries to dribble and play an ambitious pass 40% of the time.

I think it would be a bit more 50/50. It's why I think Mou plays him higher up the pitch rather than his former no 8, box to box role.
I don’t see him dwell on the ball. He passes and moves. Or tries to dribble like you said. He usually pulls those off which gives us advantage as he takes out players. I wouldn’t want him to become a safer player, we already have a lot of midfielders doing that.
 
I don’t see him dwell on the ball. He passes and moves. Or tries to dribble like you said. He usually pulls those off which gives us advantage as he takes out players. I wouldn’t want him to become a safer player, we already have a lot of midfielders doing that.
I think it slows us down a bit. I don't think it's a big ask, like my issues with his fitness. Anyway, let's agree to disagree, I think it's something Mou will eventuall make him do anyway.
 

eanN17

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You say it best when you say nothing at all.
 
Still not sure what we got for our 60 million quid really. Sure he looks decent on the ball and can beat a man but he's a long way off convincing me we didn't have our pants pulled down a bit.

Needs to do much more to influence a game like tonight
 
Ndombele was great in the first half I thought. Probably our best player.

Didn't do much in the second except for setting up our best chance. Still think we'd be best off with him in midfield and play Dele in his spot, but there's no indication that's going to happen.
 
Some good moments in the first 45 but disappeared in the second half, ran out of legs completely. Yes he put Son through for the woodwork shot but that was the only decent thing he did in the second 45, he had one tired pass that was so bad it almost cost us a goal.

Very disappointing considering he had a rest at the weekend. Yes he wasn’t the only player to have a poor second half but as our only technical midfielder we really need him to show more. If he isn’t involved in the game then we cease to exist.
 
Ah here we go.

Failed to win, so its the usual suspects who get the abuse.

Son was worse. Has his thread been bumped?
Son wasn't great, no but then his contribution this season speaks for itself.

I know that some people are all over the guy like he's the second coming. For 55 million or whatever it was i'm not seeing enough. I can see why people like him, he's about the only player we've got that will try and beat a man and in these barren times for entertainment that's something but I just think he could be doing more to put his stamp on games.

Come and grab the ball off the centre half when we can't string 2 passes together, just inject a bit of urgency into the team.
 

theromanianjackass

My one and only club
Thought he was good in the first half and easily muscled off the ball in the second half, however the whole team was so bloody awful in the second half (again) that I think it’s down to tactics than personnel.

People keep saying £60m he has to deliver more, can we do the same with the manager? £15m he has to deliver more.
 

Totti

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Son wasn't great, no but then his contribution this season speaks for itself.

I know that some people are all over the guy like he's the second coming. For 55 million or whatever it was i'm not seeing enough. I can see why people like him, he's about the only player we've got that will try and beat a man and in these barren times for entertainment that's something but I just think he could be doing more to put his stamp on games.

Come and grab the ball off the centre half when we can't string 2 passes together, just inject a bit of urgency into the team.

What's Sons contributions this season have to do with his wank performance today?

Go bump his thread and call out his performance.
 
What's Sons contributions this season have to do with his wank performance today?

Go bump his thread and call out his performance.

I'm referring to Ndombeles performance in the context of the season, not just today. That's why Son's contribution over the season is relevant since you asked. The guys that have carried us this season obviously buy themselves a bit of good will with the odd average performance.

When you compare him to other players bought in for the same price bracket some fancy footwork now and again don't cut the mustard with me. Needs to be winning games for us with stand out performances on a regular basis for that sort of money.
 

snowkarl

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Ah here we go.

Failed to win, so its the usual suspects who get the abuse.

Son was worse. Has his thread been bumped?
You have a point but Ndombele has a number of rabid defenders who would pretend he wasn't doing poorly if he was pissing on the club crest and scoring three own goals a game.

It just irks a lot of people that you're not allowed to criticize him.

It was the same with Sanchez a year or two back - even legitimate concerns are mocked and ridiculed as histrionics.

I don't think it's a coincidence that he apparently played poorly (I was unable to watch the game but yeah) after playing full games recently - kind of crushes the argument that he just gets subbed out for no reason by Mourinho. It's obvious he can't keep up the tempo for full games back to back.
 

Totti

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I'm referring to Ndombeles performance in the context of the season, not just today. That's why Son's contribution over the season is relevant since you asked. The guys that have carried us this season obviously buy themselves a bit of good will with the odd average performance.

When you compare him to other players bought in for the same price bracket some fancy footwork now and again don't cut the mustard with me. Needs to be winning games for us with stand out performances on a regular basis for that sort of money.

Why?

We signed a number 8 who barely scored and assisted for alot of money.

Why should we be expecting something different from him?

If you're expecting something different from someone who hasn't done what you were expecting. Then that's on you. Not Ndombele.
 
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