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Disgusting by Sky - absolutely no balancez
Fuck off Sky Sports' Mark McAdam and Lewis Jones,. Fuck off with your fucking false equivalence and fuck off with your cunting "matchday experience"Tottenham fans chant Y-word during Wolves game despite club asking supporters not to
Spurs held a review of the use of the Y-word, holding focus groups with some of the clubs fanbase which concluded in the summer of 2020; We recognise how these members of our fanbase feel and we also believe it is time to move on from associating this term with our clubwww.skysports.com
Sky Sports' Mark McAdam, who was at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, reported afterwards: "On the field, things weren't particularly good for Tottenham, and off the field I imagine there will be a lot of senior figureheads around this football club who will once again be disappointed with the actions of a number of fans...
"Tottenham want to eradicate it from the matchday experience and I think there will be a lot of very disappointed people here. But as we know with racism, discrimination and antisemitism, it's a long ongoing fight which will take a bit of time to eradicate...
Sky Sports' Lewis Jones, also in attendance at The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, added: "Despite the calls from the club for Spurs fans to stop chanting the 'Y-word' - it's not been reciprocated by the home fans.
"On at least seven occasions during the first half - whenever there was something to shout about - the word was chanted in some form, most of the noise coming from the South Stand where Tottenham were attacking that half. It was also chanted towards Ryan Sessegnon as he walked around the pitch when substituted."
fuck me! Just wrote that like your standard generic article on football racism, not the slightest hint of balace or context.Tottenham fans chant Y-word during Wolves game despite club asking supporters not to
Spurs held a review of the use of the Y-word, holding focus groups with some of the clubs fanbase which concluded in the summer of 2020; We recognise how these members of our fanbase feel and we also believe it is time to move on from associating this term with our club
Sky Sports' Mark McAdam, who was at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, reported afterwards: "On the field, things weren't particularly good for Tottenham, and off the field I imagine there will be a lot of senior figureheads around this football club who will once again be disappointed with the actions of a number of fans...
"Tottenham want to eradicate it from the matchday experience and I think there will be a lot of very disappointed people here. But as we know with racism, discrimination and antisemitism, it's a long ongoing fight which will take a bit of time to eradicate...
Sky Sports' Lewis Jones, also in attendance at The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, added: "Despite the calls from the club for Spurs fans to stop chanting the 'Y-word' - it's not been reciprocated by the home fans.
"On at least seven occasions during the first half - whenever there was something to shout about - the word was chanted in some form, most of the noise coming from the South Stand where Tottenham were attacking that half. It was also chanted towards Ryan Sessegnon as he walked around the pitch when substituted."
This is at the heart of it right now for me. It's how it's reported and positioned.
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This is at the heart of it right now for me. It's how it's reported and positioned.
So one of the best articles I've read on the matter to date has been the joint article from Jack Pitt-Brooke and Charlie Eccleshire of The Athletic (it has been posted further back in this thread for those who don't have a sub to the athletic).
Spurs fans and the Y-word: What happens next?
Tottenham are set to ask their supporters to assess the appropriateness of their use of the Y-word, The Athletic understands...
One of the key reasons why I see this as a good and well-written piece is it makes reference to Spurs fans reasons for chanting it. Very, very few if any even attempt to do this. So for the first time, I think Spurs fans could read it and not feel under threat of being accused of something they are so blatantly not. If anyone wants to engage with people don't piss them off and get them on the defensive from the outset, so this is why I openly applaud this article.
But through the entire piece, there is one glaring omission, A JEWISH SPURS FANS OPINION. Charlie Eccleshire is Jewish, he interviews other jews, he seeks the opinions of Leeds Utd Jewish supporters as an example of how inclusive these supporters feel with their club, only to have stories break within 24hrs of this piece publish that Leeds fans were arrested for being antisemitic (something that absolutely 100% has never happened to Spurs fans).
There seems a total lack of empathy towards Jewish spurs fans, how they feel, why they themselves (the majority) aren't offended by it. Absolutely NO ONE seeks to understand their POV, their view seems to be totally irrelevant.
Perhaps it's because they are a minority, perhaps no one cares about how they feel. But then hasn't that always been the case, wasn't this the case in Europe in the 1930's? Would things have been different had non-Jewish people enabled a voice of a minority? Amplifying it to the point where the voice became a majority.
Call me conspiracy theorist, but I feel like most of the news organisations writing about it know the context, but choose to omit it. Maybe to avoid the "controversy" of looking like you're excusing racism, after all THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR RACISM. Maybe they cynically believe that a story without this context will sell better.
I posted it mate.Did you watch that fan TV podcast posted a page or two agp?
If not; you should mate.......
It is clear that some/many articles were written over the last 10yrs or so fall into this category. I think also that the author/journalist can elevate their non-racist credentials to stand them in good stead.
