To Renew or not Renew poll

[Fattynomates]

I wonder how many swore that they wouldn't renew, but did.

 

[Pump0293]

Well done. Keep supporting the club when they need it. Can’t just do it when we are playing well.

Been a season ticket holder since 1985 not going to stop now.

 

[SpiderSpurs]

Nope, I've stuck to my guns and I'm out. Variety of reasons

• family and work reasons that mean I have less time (5 hour round trip to get there, late night motorways often shut these days)
• majority of games I'll be able to pick up a ticket anyway if I want one
• modern football doesn't thrill me, being treated like a customer instead of a fan, not being allowed to stand, no singing, no atmosphere, surrounded by tourists every week, having to stand up 30 times every match while people go to the toilet or burger stall or photograph themselves - simply unenjoyable
• I miss WHL, the new stadium is impressive but it's not the same - the kids will never get to experience a proper football crowd
• it's not the money per se, I'm middle-class and middle-aged, but the ST prices are 25% too high, the club is making profit from me, because of course it's a business not a football club, making a profit from me is what they do
• modern obsession with silverware - most fans on here would rather win a trophy with a Mourhino, sat back defending a 1-0 lead, rather than lose gloriously with a Redknapp. Not me. They call me 'a loser'.
• of course I get that we support the badge and not a player or a manager but what Levy did to Poch was disgraceful - I was ashamed of the club. Why? because 'fans' are baying for 'silverware'.

Like others, I've supported Spurs since the late 60's, thick and thin, I'll obviously never support another team, but this last season has drained my love for the game - couple of times I sat there watching the ball bounce off Sissoko's shins thinking "what am I doing here?"

Dunno, maybe a break of a year or two away will bring me back refreshed , but for the moment I check out with no regrets.... just my personal opinion and total respect to all that have renewed

That's a great post.

 

[Legacy Lilywhite]

This is all true and surely one wouldn't just chuck away their loyalty to Spurs. But a pleasant afternoon out at the football match is something really wonderful beyond the matter of one's tribal loyalty to Spurs. And English lower league football in particular is something really rare and precious and it depends on locals to sustain it.

Spurs are a global megabrand, and that's fun and exciting but it does present a trade off with the charm and sense of particularity and personal ownership of the more human-scale sports experience.

I'm a Chicago Fire season ticket holder for a lot of the above rationale. It's a good time, a very reasonable price, and it's something I feel good about supporting and contributing to.

You should appreciate that for those of us who have been part of the club our whole lives that this is how we feel about Tottenham. We are the club and the club is us. That strong feeling of belonging and of being is there. We have a hardcore of a few thousand fans who stuck with the club throughout the nineties and previous decades of course - and the failure and the mediocrity. It means we’re as close to THFC as any fan of any small club.

I do watch lower league football and non league but it is not the same. That raw intimacy and passion and connection they feel with their club is what I have to Spurs.

 

[Matt1882]

I’m not convinced that tickets will be as easy to flog on the exchange in the post-Covid, post-new stadium, post-top 4, post-CL Spurs world we’re about to enter though.

I reckon they’ll be thousands with the same idea of cherry picking the big matches and trying to off-load the crap ones, coupled with many matches not selling out plus an unknown number of unsold season ticket seats added to the list of seats for the club to sell for individual matches too.

I wouldn’t recommending factoring the exchange into the finances of buying an ST for a few years.

Yeah, dont disagree.
I may not pick my games on the opposition though, it might just be based on when I can make it.

Also been told my mother is unwell and will look to spend more time with her than out with strangers watching gash football.

I'll take the hit if I can't sell my ticket.

 

[Fattynomates]

If I lived in England I would renew every year, no matter how bad the on the field product.

Kind of a moot point though if you dont actually live in England though isnt it? :llorisunsure:

 

[Rufio]

I am renewing but will wait to the last minute to do the transfer. If I am honest I am completely disgusted by Levy/Enic. The way they carried on in the lock down , the extortionate prices, there terrible attitude to local and young fans. I could go on. But spurs are a community and us fans were here before ENIC and we will still be here when they are finally gone.

 

[For better or worse]

renewed, unlikely to enter the ballot (for a few reasons) but it's great knowing the family have the option, maybe not much this season but next. My eldest (11) keeps mentioning the meat pies and my Mum loves the time with the grand kids – win, lose or draw it's where memories and bonds are made.

We might have to start driving as it's not easy for a 70 year old but we will find a way... COYS.

 

[Henry Hotspur]

Sent Levy my dough this morning. Vote changed on the poll to ‘yes’ - tragically addicted to this sodding football club...

 

[Fattynomates]

I wasnt going to Renew, but the seat they offered me looks decent, im wondering if Levy has his spies on here as without the new seat being offered doubt i would have renewed, ah who am i kidding i was always going to renew , im weak!

 

[Brian Fantana]

Been a season ticket holder since 1985 not going to stop now.

Ive seen us be too shit for too many years to stop going. Once I could afford a season ticket I got one, won’t be giving it up anytime soon with any luck!

 

[palmers_green_yid]

Of course I renewed. Not sure there will be any games we can actually attend this season though!

 

[Fattynomates]

Thanks for the likes guys - appreciated. One more old codger rant, whilst I'm trying to explain why I'm falling out of love. The money that modern players are paid is obscene, it is simply immoral. The only way to personally register my disgust is to stop pumping my money into the game.

The worst thing is fans don’t even matter no More, all us loyal ST holders could not renew and the club would just sell our seats to the next in line, it’s a sad state of affairs

 

[BernardMatthews]

Each to their own, and with respect...I struggle to understand going to watch lower league clubs instead of Spurs. I understand the atmosphere and the experience might be better, but it's...not Spurs? Surely you can't want the team to win with anything approaching the same passion. And surely you don't feel the same bond with the other Orient or Peterborough fans- as these are people who have shared relegations, promotions, play-offs, the club's financial problems etc with each other- but you don't support that team and haven't shared all that. Whereas at Spurs I feel a tribal loyalty towards other yids because we've shared everything together, and we're the same in important ways. Maybe it develops over time I guess, but would you ever truly belong in the same way as someone who is from Peterborough who has loved that club from their youth?

I do agree that at the new ground the atmosphere is soulless 99% of the time...unless it's a game against top 6 opposition, when it's always pretty decent. I love meeting up with people before and after, and for the game I see it as a chance to watch the actual game from a comfy seat with a great view and see who is performing well etc, rather than a proper genuine football experience because it is no longer that sadly. Away games are a totally different experience altogether, and I think I'd rather miss 5 home games than 1 away game.

If for some reason I couldn't go away, I'd still keep my ST but the main reason I always renew without thinking is that with my LP's it guarantees me away tickets.

I think at a certain level I would not feel the same. Stevenage are my local team. I can’t feel the same for them at all.

But I got involved coaching at Step 5 - aiming to get a B license- and the camaraderie at that level can’t be overlooked.

“Fans” mix with the players families, you see them in the clubhouse after the game. It’s a community thing. A people thing.

And scoring a last minute winner might not result in the same limbs (for me) but the emotion is still there.
There is still a buzz.

Saying all that a Spurs goal in an NLD is like a hard drug hitting my veins. I’m not chasing that high watching a lower league team. It’s a different type of feeling. But still good for the soul!

 

[Chester/ Yukon]

My uncle would tell me on his occasional visits to the great outdoors that he couldn't wait for the season to start , new signings like Peters , Argie lads , , would excite the palette . Of course he believed in being self entitled as we won a bit of silver.
Expectations would be high if usually a false dawn.
Today this Danish clogger , Watford , Bournemouth, Arse rejects has eventually said enough . 51 years going , 24 as a season ticket holder , finally time to move on and put his feet up .
He just doesn't enjoy the quality of football, crap signings and ability to achieve . Let a tourist Day tripper type take his place. The club will be happy as he don't buy any tat.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I first went to a game and immediately applied for a season ticket when we was managed by Santini. This doesn't compare to a few people that I go with that went to every game the year we was in the 2nd division. But I support the CLUB and (more importantly to me) enjoy the socialising around going to football too much to give it up. That being said I can afford it at the moment bit when it starts becoming prohibitively expensive I can see the crowd I go with jacking it in and maybe start going to a non league team or just staying in the pub. A few have started to fall out of love with what top tier football has become.

Definitely count me in as being part of that group. VAR has completely ruined the match experience for me. You can’t safely celebrate a goal now without the fear of it being chalked off. That and the moaning around me in the south stand is just terrible. We have some terrible fans who seem to outnumber the good ones now I’m afraid.

 

[NickPG]

Has anyone else successfully deferred?

I've got a really minor immune system problem, fewer T-cells or something, which i'm too dumb to understand. Net result is i get loads of colds in the winter if i'm not careful. My wife is also expecting a baby in November, while i'm not shielding or anything i basically don't really want to get COVID if i can help it, especially around the time i might have a new baby, even if it's being out of action for a bit.

Anyway after i paid my 20% deposit i wrote the renewal people an email explaining this and asked to defer until 21/22. This was not something i really wanted to do, but it seemed sensible all things considered. The amount of sensitive documentation I've been asked to provide is quite mad.

I can sort of see both sides, and this is a mental situation for everyone concerned, i don't even know how i expected it to go, but sending mine and my wife's fucking medical records to Spurs is not something i ever expected to do.

 

[BigYid1882]

Has anyone else successfully deferred?

I've got a really minor immune system problem, fewer T-cells or something, which i'm too dumb to understand. Net result is i get loads of colds in the winter if i'm not careful. My wife is also expecting a baby in November, while i'm not shielding or anything i basically don't really want to get COVID if i can help it, especially around the time i might have a new baby, even if it's being out of action for a bit.

Anyway after i paid my 20% deposit i wrote the renewal people an email explaining this and asked to defer until 21/22. This was not something i really wanted to do, but it seemed sensible all things considered. The amount of sensitive documentation I've been asked to provide is quite mad.

I can sort of see both sides, and this is a mental situation for everyone concerned, i don't even know how i expected it to go, but sending mine and my wife's fucking medical records to Spurs is not something i ever expected to do.

If you haven't already, I'd ask them what will be happening to the copies of your records. I'm not 100% on what the law says but a private company that's not an employer holding medical details on someone does not sit right with me.

 

[Fattynomates]

My brother in law will take up an offer of one if they get down to him (45k ISH on the list). He is convinced he won't get one. I reckon he has a good chance.
Might even get close to my seat.

I would bet money on him getting offered one, the only issue i would guess would be if he can get 1 near you, you never know he might get lucky and get one somewhere else in the stadium!

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

"During the War"

"and then we ran the Gooners out of the North Bank".