Thanks for the likes guys - appreciated. One more old codger rant, whilst I'm trying to explain why I'm falling out of love. The money that modern players are paid is obscene, it is simply immoral. The only way to personally register my disgust is to stop pumping my money into the game.
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Thanks for the likes guys - appreciated. One more old codger rant, whilst I'm trying to explain why I'm falling out of love. The money that modern players are paid is obscene, it is simply immoral. The only way to personally register my disgust is to stop pumping my money into the game.
The worst thing is fans don’t even matter no More, all us loyal ST holders could not renew and the club would just sell our seats to the next in line, it’s a sad state of affairs
Head over to Peterborough or something. The game still exists at a price point that caters to the common man.
Good post. I've renewed but it might be the last time if things keep going the way they are. Especially agree with your views on stadium atmosphere and getting up a hundred times during the matches because people are scoffing pies etc. The only thing I don't agree with in your list is the chase for silverware - we simply had too many near misses from 2014-19 for it to be a fluke, there's something not quite right with the club and we need to build a culture of winning. It doesn't seem fair that players like Jan and Dembele left Spurs having never won a trophy with us, and, perish the thought, the fact Kane might not either...
I gave up my ST about 5 years. Mainly financial reasons. Always be a yid and try and go once a year for my kids really.
When I can go over to the Orient with my two lads forsometimes as little as a score it’s a no brainier for me personally.
When I can go over to the Orient with my two lads forsometimes as little as a score it’s a no brainier for me personally.
Friend in the USA didn’t renew. But 2 guys in Dubai did. Although I don’t think they even went last season!
But imagine generally overseas ST holders will just write off next season.
Next season is probably a freebie with little risk of it costing us much, if anything, if we choose not to attend the restricted capacity matches. The crunch for many will probably come the following season (2021-22) when (if) we are back full time and have to cough up the full amount, especially if there’s little demand for tickets on the Exchange.
Each to their own, and with respect...I struggle to understand going to watch lower league clubs instead of Spurs. I understand the atmosphere and the experience might be better, but it's...not Spurs? Surely you can't want the team to win with anything approaching the same passion. And surely you don't feel the same bond with the other Orient or Peterborough fans- as these are people who have shared relegations, promotions, play-offs, the club's financial problems etc with each other- but you don't support that team and haven't shared all that. Whereas at Spurs I feel a tribal loyalty towards other yids because we've shared everything together, and we're the same in important ways. Maybe it develops over time I guess, but would you ever truly belong in the same way as someone who is from Peterborough who has loved that club from their youth?
I do agree that at the new ground the atmosphere is soulless 99% of the time...unless it's a game against top 6 opposition, when it's always pretty decent. I love meeting up with people before and after, and for the game I see it as a chance to watch the actual game from a comfy seat with a great view and see who is performing well etc, rather than a proper genuine football experience because it is no longer that sadly. Away games are a totally different experience altogether, and I think I'd rather miss 5 home games than 1 away game.
If for some reason I couldn't go away, I'd still keep my ST but the main reason I always renew without thinking is that with my LP's it guarantees me away tickets.
I do agree that at the new ground the atmosphere is soulless 99% of the time...unless it's a game against top 6 opposition, when it's always pretty decent. I love meeting up with people before and after, and for the game I see it as a chance to watch the actual game from a comfy seat with a great view and see who is performing well etc, rather than a proper genuine football experience because it is no longer that sadly. Away games are a totally different experience altogether, and I think I'd rather miss 5 home games than 1 away game.
If for some reason I couldn't go away, I'd still keep my ST but the main reason I always renew without thinking is that with my LP's it guarantees me away tickets.
This is all true and surely one wouldn't just chuck away their loyalty to Spurs. But a pleasant afternoon out at the football match is something really wonderful beyond the matter of one's tribal loyalty to Spurs. And English lower league football in particular is something really rare and precious and it depends on locals to sustain it.
Spurs are a global megabrand, and that's fun and exciting but it does present a trade off with the charm and sense of particularity and personal ownership of the more human-scale sports experience.
I'm a Chicago Fire season ticket holder for a lot of the above rationale. It's a good time, a very reasonable price, and it's something I feel good about supporting and contributing to.
I think at a certain level I would not feel the same. Stevenage are my local team. I can’t feel the same for them at all.
But I got involved coaching at Step 5 - aiming to get a B license- and the camaraderie at that level can’t be overlooked.
“Fans” mix with the players families, you see them in the clubhouse after the game. It’s a community thing. A people thing.
And scoring a last minute winner might not result in the same limbs (for me) but the emotion is still there.
There is still a buzz.
Saying all that a Spurs goal in an NLD is like a hard drug hitting my veins. I’m not chasing that high watching a lower league team. It’s a different type of feeling. But still good for the soul!
You should appreciate that for those of us who have been part of the club our whole lives that this is how we feel about Tottenham. We are the club and the club is us. That strong feeling of belonging and of being is there. We have a hardcore of a few thousand fans who stuck with the club throughout the nineties and previous decades of course - and the failure and the mediocrity. It means we’re as close to THFC as any fan of any small club.
I do watch lower league football and non league but it is not the same. That raw intimacy and passion and connection they feel with their club is what I have to Spurs.
Agree on the whole. I go and watch non-League quite often but I don't really care what the result is. Even after 52 years every Spurs loss to this day is like a knife through the heart.
The lows are definitely lower with the club you love. Bad result hits you for a long time.
For sure, and the people that are there thick and thin, home and away, are part of something beyond what can be packaged and sold in Singapore or Chicago.
But if you're having to drag yourself from Rutland every Saturday for ever increasing sums and you're sick of it? My point is that there are other supplementary options that provide certain values that Spurs may not.
I first went to a game and immediately applied for a season ticket when we was managed by Santini. This doesn't compare to a few people that I go with that went to every game the year we was in the 2nd division. But I support the CLUB and (more importantly to me) enjoy the socialising around going to football too much to give it up. That being said I can afford it at the moment bit when it starts becoming prohibitively expensive I can see the crowd I go with jacking it in and maybe start going to a non league team or just staying in the pub. A few have started to fall out of love with what top tier football has become.
This is it for me as well, following Spurs isn’t a choice I can’t follow any other club like I do spurs and if I could I would def it try and follow one that wins more!
I'm a life member of Wealdstone. Started following them in my early teens when they still played at Lower Mead in Harrow, before Tesco fucked them over and they were nomads for a while. Sponsored a few games too through my local pub in Wembley a few times, getting into the directors 'lounge' at Grosvenor Vale on many occasions.
Didn't get to one game last season however, I do still follow their results closely.
Games against Borough and Northwood were always 'tasty' affairs but a loss for the stones never hurt as much as a Spurs loss, it did hurt though.
Didn't get to one game last season however, I do still follow their results closely.
Games against Borough and Northwood were always 'tasty' affairs but a loss for the stones never hurt as much as a Spurs loss, it did hurt though.
You’re right. And my visits to Griffin Park this past season gave me a small feel for what we lost at WHL when the PL era arrived. Love a proper ground with the smell of hot dogs, cigarettes and alcohol. If Gucci made that fragrance I’d be all over it.
Exactly how I feel about things. I rarely watch other live games, 90+ minutes is just too much for me
