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I think the problem is that they play better as a unit. They're settled and each player knows their part. They're well-coached and they're doing well in the EL which will lift their spirits further.

We're still finding our feet. They're not going to give us the breathing space we had against Newcastle in the last 75 mins. It will most likely be like the first 15 mins for a sustained period and I do have doubts about our ability to soak up that pressure, not because of a lack of talent, but owing to the fact that we've been late to the table finding our best eleven and I'm not yet confident in Nuno's ability to spot a problem and correct it quickly enough.

They have lost Jesse which has maybe taken a bit of wind out of their sails, but they really do love beating us and I think they're mentally the tougher side. If everyone shows up we should be able to beat them, but I still have doubts about our players' ability to lift their heads when the pressure's really on.

Fingers crossed, but I'm more nervous for this one than the last two.

Fair synopsis. I'm not suggesting for a moment that tomorrow won't be a tough game. I just don't see the need to overplay them (or downplay us)....

Even last year - despite the fact that we were in a low moment and they are at their very best of the modern era - they finished just 3 points and one position above us for the first time in 19 (20?) years yet people insist on painting it as if they are another plain.

They're not; they're just in a good place compared to whats typically expected of them.

Meanwhile we - the 5th richest club in the league - are currently sat 5th.

Well - I bloody hope so. But I don’t think you can deny they look a better outfit than us presently.

See above....
 

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    The fighting cock is actually hilarious, it’s just page after page after page of them talking about how they don’t care about us and it’s our cup final. Every single game we play them it’s the same on there
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    Its a pathetic debate anyway but it’s extremely funny how hard they have to convince themselves that they don’t see this is a rivalry.

    Get a grip, accept it’s a rivalry and try not to be c**** about everything your whole life. Genuinely I’d say 90% of spurs fans I’ve met are utter c****.




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Oh do shut up pikey!!!! And for the record, 99.9% of Westham fans are absolute scumbag Cunts too!!! You are all anti Semitic and racist bastards!!! You are also obsessed with Spurs. No Spurs fan gives a shit about you, so stop pretending we do. We want to win purely to throw it back in you’re face as you hate us that much. It’s a normal game for us. You want to win because the Spurs game is your season, that is the difference. Twat!!!
 

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  • Post Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:56 am
    The fighting cock is actually hilarious, it’s just page after page after page of them talking about how they don’t care about us and it’s our cup final. Every single game we play them it’s the same on there
    :crylol:
    Its a pathetic debate anyway but it’s extremely funny how hard they have to convince themselves that they don’t see this is a rivalry.

    Get a grip, accept it’s a rivalry and try not to be c**** about everything your whole life. Genuinely I’d say 90% of spurs fans I’ve met are utter c****.




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Oh do shut up pikey!!!! And for the record, 99.9% of Westham fans are absolute scumbag Cunts too!!! You are all anti Semitic and racist bastards!!! You are also obsessed with Spurs. No Spurs fan gives a shit about you, so stop pretending we do. We want to win purely to throw it back in you’re face as you hate us that much. It’s a normal game for us. You want to win because the Spurs game is your season, that is the difference. Twat!!!
Some fans do care to be honest, which I am a bit bemused by, but most I know consider it like any other game. Personally, I only consider Woolwich and Chelsea as rivalries from the fan sense. I will say though, prior to covid, It was always comical to see a group of people 30 years behind the rest of society. "Adolf Hitler, he is coming for you" and the Nazi salutes from the away end to name a few instances. They seem to take particular exception to people with big noses, which they chant about to any poor sod walking past. They are a bueatiful club.
I can guarantee they will take this comment as somehow accepting their rivalry but hey ho, I know I am being honest.
 
Some fans do care to be honest, which I am a bit bemused by, but most I know consider it like any other game. Personally, I only consider Woolwich and Chelsea as rivalries from the fan sense. I will say though, prior to covid, It was always comical to see a group of people 30 years behind the rest of society. "Adolf Hitler, he is coming for you" and the Nazi salutes from the away end to name a few instances. They seem to take particular exception to people with big noses, which they chant about to any poor sod walking past. They are a bueatiful club.
I can guarantee they will take this comment as somehow accepting their rivalry but hey ho, I know I am being honest.
Lot of my yid mates hate them with a passion but they share areas with them in east end/Essex way
 
Some fans do care to be honest, which I am a bit bemused by, but most I know consider it like any other game. Personally, I only consider Woolwich and Chelsea as rivalries from the fan sense. I will say though, prior to covid, It was always comical to see a group of people 30 years behind the rest of society. "Adolf Hitler, he is coming for you" and the Nazi salutes from the away end to name a few instances. They seem to take particular exception to people with big noses, which they chant about to any poor sod walking past. They are a bueatiful club.
I can guarantee they will take this comment as somehow accepting their rivalry but hey ho, I know I am being honest.

Horrible fan base. Up there with Millwall in the scumbag competition. It’s probably the rundown areas a lot of the Westham fan base are from, but white trash springs to mind when thinking of them. A bunch of chavs.
 
The Westham fan I quoted is prowling on this forum by the way 😂😂😂😂 just had a look on Kumb. Knob head, we don’t care about you. Get it in your head that this match means a lot more to you’re fanbase than it does ours. Oh and 100% a lot of you’re supporters are anti Semitic bastards. The amount of vile nazi abuse you throw our way is disgusting. Horrible fan base.
 
This I probably the first Spurs - Spam game in a long while where they are in better form and probably favourites. My god how far we have fallen.
 
This I probably the first Spurs - Spam game in a long while where they are in better form and probably favourites. My god how far we have fallen.

Looks like I'm gonna have to re-posting the following once or twice today:

Last 3 years?

The season before last they finished 16th...... The year before that 10th.

We currently sit above them.

They have happened upon a decent team but their 'rise' is very much being overstated by you and some others.

I'm not suggesting for a moment that tomorrow won't be a tough game. I just don't see the need to overplay them (or downplay us)....

Even last year - despite the fact that we were in a low moment and they are at their very best of the modern era - they finished just 3 points and one position above us for the first time in 19 (20?) years yet people insist on painting it as if they are another plain.

They're not; they're just in a good place compared to whats typically expected of them.

Meanwhile we - the 5th richest club in the league - are currently sat 5th.

They've also not won at home in the league since 23rd August.
 
This I probably the first Spurs - Spam game in a long while where they are in better form and probably favourites. My god how far we have fallen.
Our first XI are better than theirs, now that Nuno has weeded out the problem players from it. The more often they play together the better..... if it's going to be Deir Romero as CBs, they need to gel a bit better as a pairing.

I watched their game at Everton, our attacking players could rip them to pieces if on form.
 
Agreed I think on paper, our 1st 11 are definitely better than their team. As good form as Antonio is in, both Harry Kane and Son are far superior players. In fact, there are not many Westham players I would have over ours apart from Dier swapping with one of their defenders. The difference is, they play as a team and fight for each other. If we turn up, we win it’s as simple as that.
 
I think Rice, Zouma and Fornals make our team, with Antonio being really good too so would probably play him off the right instead of Lucas/Bergwijn even though it's not his favoured role. Soucek is also a nightmare to play against due to his aerial prowess & work rate, but not sure he'd get in ahead of our own work horse in Hojbjerg. Neutrals probably go for Soucek.

I also think Cresswell or Reguilon is more than a debate than some here will admit. 2 assists vs 8 in the league last season for two primarily attack minded fullbacks .. not exactly good reading.
 
I think Rice, Zouma and Fornals make our team, with Antonio being really good too so would probably play him off the right instead of Lucas/Bergwijn even though it's not his favoured role.


Possibly Rice agreed and Zouma. Wouldn’t take anyone else mate. Antonio would be our sub striker and a great sub he would be, but no way is he getting in ahead of Harry or Son. Like you say, he doesn’t play in Lucas position, so he would be a bench player. Man for man we are 100% better than Westham. Team spirit and commitment is where they can win the game. On quality alone, we win if we turn up
 
Possibly Rice agreed and Zouma. Wouldn’t take anyone else mate. Antonio would be our sub striker and a great sub he would be, but no way is he getting in ahead of Harry or Son. Like you say, he doesn’t play in Lucas position, so he would be a bench player. Man for man we are 100% better than Westham. Team spirit and commitment is where they can win the game. On quality alone, we win if we turn up

Rice is 100% nailed on tbh. He'd be fantastic, we all love Skipp and I have high hopes for him, but as of now Rice is far ahead as a player in his development. Antonio I think has played RW in the past so possible we could get him out there, but yeah if we're talking current role Kane or Son are miles ahead.

But yeah, overall we do have more quality than them. I don't think the gap is as big as some will make out, but two genuinely elite players in Kane and Son tip that balance. But Moyes is very good at getting the best out of that kind of side, as he did with Everton.
 
I think Rice, Zouma and Fornals make our team, with Antonio being really good too so would probably play him off the right instead of Lucas/Bergwijn even though it's not his favoured role. Soucek is also a nightmare to play against due to his aerial prowess & work rate, but not sure he'd get in ahead of our own work horse in Hojbjerg. Neutrals probably go for Soucek.

I also think Cresswell or Reguilon is more than a debate than some here will admit. 2 assists vs 8 in the league last season for two primarily attack minded fullbacks .. not exactly good reading.

The thing with Fornals & Antonio is you're talking about players that have struggled for one reason or another whom are now just enjoying a nice run of form. Who'd you drop for the former btw?
 
The thing with Fornals & Antonio is you're talking about players that have struggled for one reason or another whom are now just enjoying a nice run of form. Who'd you drop for the former btw?

Antonio has scored double figures in each of his last two Premier League seasons, and (I believe?) that's not with penalties .. so it isn't just form. He also has 5 this one so looks set to easily hit double figures for 3 years in a row. Fornals has had 2 solid premier league seasons in a row as well.

Ndombele, probably. I believe he has far more talent but we can only currently go off what he's showed for the last couple of seasons. If he can put up performances like the Newcastle one remotely consistently he's miles ahead though.
 
Antonio has scored double figures in each of his last two Premier League seasons, and (I believe?) that's not with penalties .. so it isn't just form.

19/20 = 10
20/21 = 10

He also has 5 this one so looks set to easily hit double figures for 3 years in a row.

In his case the aforementioned struggles have been staying fit.

Fornals has had 2 solid premier league seasons in a row as well.

...And you're counting this season as one of the two pressumably?

They finished 16th the season before last.... I don't recall him being a shining light in an otherwise dark season.

Ndombele, probably. I believe he has far more talent but we can only currently go off what he's showed for the last couple of seasons. If he can put up performances like the Newcastle one remotely consistently he's miles ahead though.

Fair..... Ndombele's a big quirk to any such conversation as he's so unpredictable.
 
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