Winks was with us over 20, is he a legend?
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No, because he hasn't contributed much in that time where as Lloris has.
Its your opinion though and you are totally entitled to it.
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Ok, you said - Lloris has been with us for 10 years, he deserves legendary status surely? - now you've changed your mind on that.
So, what exactly has Hugo done that warrants legend status?
My reading is that Hugo & Levy have agreed that he will find a new club this summer. Whether there's a small fee depends on who he signs with.
I think he will stay rather than go on the pre-season tour, so if a deal is sorted, he's around for the medical with his new club and can begin the next part of his career. I don't think not taking him would be a snub. For me, it's the pragmatic approach.
Far better for Whiteman & Austin to get some minutes as Ange & the coaches assess their level, and who will be our #3 keeper this season.
For anyone who chooses to ignore his drink driving or hand wave it so they can still call him a "legend" let alone judge other supporters for disliking him and not giving him legend status; I really hope you never have to go through losing a loved one because of some degenerate piece of shit that decided to get behind the wheel of a car intoxicated.
I doubt very much if you did you would ever consider that individual a "legend" of anything.
It shows the absolute immaturity of some posters on here that they are willing to ignore such a thing and try and separate the footballer from the man.
I couldn't care less what he has or hasn't done for the club on or off the pitch because the moment he decided to get behind the wheel of a car drunk all the other shit becomes irrelevant to me and I would argue, to anybody who has any form of integrity and logic.
I doubt very much if you did you would ever consider that individual a "legend" of anything.
It shows the absolute immaturity of some posters on here that they are willing to ignore such a thing and try and separate the footballer from the man.
I couldn't care less what he has or hasn't done for the club on or off the pitch because the moment he decided to get behind the wheel of a car drunk all the other shit becomes irrelevant to me and I would argue, to anybody who has any form of integrity and logic.
There’s stupid stuff and stupid stuff
What Hugo did was unforgivable and he was lucky that he didn’t kill anyone or do you condone drunken driving?
It’s not the amount of time spent at a certain it’s how you conduct yourself during that time surely?
People are allowed to make mistakes
You're acting as if you've never made one in your life as you sit their shining your halo in your Ivory tower.
I think Lloris has been great for us and rate his time with us highly.
However, it is totally understandable that the drink driving incident has coloured some peoples views of him - it is a disgusting thing to do.
That said, I'm glad we had him at his prime, and wish him all the best for wherever he goes.
Why are you so confrontational?
Take a chill pill
That wasn’t a mistake
Taking a wrong exit from a roundabout is a mistake
We’ve all done it
Getting in to the driver’s seat of a car pissed and deciding to drive on a public road is a deliberate act
Most people can tell the difference……
Unless you’re also a drunk driver????
hes no more of a cult hero than michael dawson.
Michael makes ten of Hugo and is a true Spur!
Of course it's stupid but the discussion is does it takeaway from his legend status especially when we've had other players who have done stupid stuff off the pitch...point is what does his off the pitch demeanors have to do with what happens on the pitch?
It's such a stupid argument, it's like saying that Maradona wasn't a legend because of the way he lived his life and got banned for testing positive (I'm not comparing Lloris to Maradona before anyone chimes in) but again the point, on field antics is where players should be judged not what happens in their private lives.
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So if a footballer rapes a woman off the pitch in his private life should we still only judge him based on his on field antics?
Drink driving ruins innocent peoples lives, just like rape.
Yep drink driving and rape are definitely the same, well done.
Both ruin innocent peoples lives, you clearly can't grasp what impact drink driving has on people and the chain reaction it causes when it takes an innocents life, explain to me what impact rape also has on a person?
Oh, that's right, life long trauma of innocent people.
The only difference is, it happens in every instance with rape but with drink driving sometimes the sub human scum that partake in it get away consequence free.
"Oh but Lloris didn't harm anyone so it's not the same" but he made a conscious choice to do something incredibly dangerous and illegal and put peoples lives at risk for his own selfish reasons, he was literally puking all over his vehicle for fuck sake.
I made a bet with my wife that you would say EXACTLY what you just said because you're more interested in arguing than making a valid logical point Shady.
If you want to die on this hill for him and his "legend" status and to just argue with people you disagree with then be my guest but it makes you look like an apologist imo.
Yet as far as I can see Hugo didn't ruin anyone's life apart from his own, if he hit someone or killed someone then you have more than a point, he fucked up but quit the OTT false equivalence, you're being far too dramatic.