Jose Mourinho

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Yes good win with a encouraging first half albeit against some crap oppo. We do have quality in attacking positions that there is no doubt. The criticism from a lot of fans about jose is that he really ought not bog the team down with too much tactical defensive analysis. I’m sure if allowed the tram can offer much more just like maureen😀Just let the team play. The worrying thing again was the 2nd half and how we completely lost our way for about 30?mins. The passing all went to pot when they started press culminating in the pen. They then had a few good chances to make it squeaky bum time. Now this needs to be fixed otherwise when we play anyone half decent we will be out. Also it seems we can only play good pacey attacking football against real crap teams. We need to play like this in the PL more often and not be scared of our own shadows.
 
Yes but we knew why and spoke about this many times. We lacked a DM (the most critical problem) we lacked full back depth, we lack cover for Kane, and we could do with another CB and AM.

We bought all of these, this was the backing most people wanted Poch to have 1-2 seasons ago. We fixed the depth issue that was running us into the ground.

It was the best transfer window in Levy’s tenure. Most people thought we had a squad at least United/Chelsea strong and a bit below Liverpool/City. We only moaned we didn’t get Skrinar.

Now it’s like that brilliant window never happened, all because Jose doesn’t have a clue how to use attacking players and puts all the pressure on our weakest area our CB’s. This is a classic Ramos>Redknapp situation. A manager who has a squad not suited to his tactics but would suit an attacking manager.
I dont understand the logic of how buying just any player automatically improves a squad. So if next summer, we buy a championship midfielder that is no better than Winks, would it also qualify as strengthening the squad?

May be by using rose tinted glasses, but I really dont see how our squad is objectively comparable to United or Chelsea. Not just the starting XI, but the depth as well.

The last window was good cos we hit more than miss given that we were bargain bin shopping. PEH and reguilon were good value, but everyone else (Hart, Doherty, Rodon, and Bale) were not starter players and Vinicius is just a backup for lower level opposition.

Those other clubs have spent significantly more money to assemble their squads and bargain bin shopping is not going to make up the difference (cos they also keep improving)

If the high priority needs of a top quality CB, quality playmaker and a starter RB+GK are addressed this summer, and with the expected introduction of Skipp and Sessegnon, the gap with those top 4 squads should be narrower (depending on who those clubs also add). Even then we would still be lacking in depth in some positions and do with upgrading others.
 
I dont understand the logic of how buying just any player automatically improves a squad. So if next summer, we buy a championship midfielder that is no better than Winks, would it also qualify as strengthening the squad?

May be by using rose tinted glasses, but I really dont see how our squad is objectively comparable to United or Chelsea. Not just the starting XI, but the depth as well.

The last window was good cos we hit more than miss given that we were bargain bin shopping. PEH and reguilon were good value, but everyone else (Hart, Doherty, Rodon, and Bale) were not starter players and Vinicius is just a backup for lower level opposition.

Those other clubs have spent significantly more money to assemble their squads and bargain bin shopping is not going to make up the difference (cos they also keep improving)

If the high priority needs of a top quality CB, quality playmaker and a starter RB+GK are addressed this summer, and with the expected introduction of Skipp and Sessegnon, the gap with those top 4 squads should be narrower (depending on who those clubs also add). Even then we would still be lacking in depth in some positions and do with upgrading others.

Regulion, PEH, Vinnie, Doherty, Bale, Rodon where all very decent signings and seen as such at the time in very needed positions. A top draw CB yes is needed but we got most of what we wanted.
 
and who was the manager?

(go on, stretch for it)
Moyes replaced pelegrani in December 2019. Whats your point why did you make up a fact about where West ham finnished last season. Tottenham finished 20 points ahead of West ham last season. On every metric squad, youth set up, facilities, history , fan base and purchasing power Tottenham are superior yet we go into Sunday six points behind and could possible be 9 points behind. Tottenham should not be any where near West ham. Why did you inflate West ham position?
 
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Regulion, PEH, Vinnie, Doherty, Bale, Rodon where all very decent signings and seen as such at the time in very needed positions. A top draw CB yes is needed but we got most of what we wanted.
I would question the judgement of anyone that felt these were the type of players that would improve our squad.

Doherty is not as good as Aurier on a regular day. The issue with Aurier is the regularity of his bone headed play.

Vinne couldnt cut it Napoli and Monaco. He is not going to become a PL quality striker overnight. His best use case is like tonight, againstlower level oppositions.

Bale has spent more of his time playing golf than playing football at Madrid. Anyone thinking he would roll back the clock muts also believe in the existence of time machines. The best we could have gotten was a super sub that wasnt afraid of the moment. But even that seems too much to ask for.

Rodon has only one season of regular football in the championship. He should not be expected to come in and help us vie to top 4. He is simply a long term project that hopefully yields value down the line.

Since Dembele left, that playmaker role is yet to be filled and its as big of a need (if not bigger) than the CB. Also with each delay in upgrading the squad,more players will decline with age (e.g. lloris) and create new gaps that need to be filled. The squad is not static neither are other clubs twiddling their thumbs.
 
I would question the judgement of anyone that felt these were the type of players that would improve our squad.

Doherty is not as good as Aurier on a regular day. The issue with Aurier is the regularity of his bone headed play.

Vinne couldnt cut it Napoli and Monaco. He is not going to become a PL quality striker overnight. His best use case is like tonight, againstlower level oppositions.

Bale has spent more of his time playing golf than playing football at Madrid. Anyone thinking he would roll back the clock muts also believe in the existence of time machines. The best we could have gotten was a super sub that wasnt afraid of the moment. But even that seems too much to ask for.

Rodon has only one season of regular football in the championship. He should not be expected to come in and help us vie to top 4. He is simply a long term project that hopefully yields value down the line.

Since Dembele left, that playmaker role is yet to be filled and its as big of a need (if not bigger) than the CB. Also with each delay in upgrading the squad,more players will decline with age (e.g. lloris) and create new gaps that need to be filled. The squad is not static neither are other clubs twiddling their thumbs.
Why did you lie about where West ham finnished?
 
Moyes replaced pelegrani in December 2019. Whats your point why did you make up a fact about where West ham finnished last season. Tottenham finished 20 points ahead of West ham last season. On every metric squad, youth set up, facilities, history , fan base and purchasing power Tottenham are superior yet we go into Sunday six points behind and could possible be 9 points behind. Tottenham should not be any where near West ham. Why did you inflate West ham position?
Didnt lie, simply corrected your misrepresentation.

Both Mourinho and Moyes took over midway through the 2019/20, so same measure should and can be easily applied.

Since Moyes 'inherited' a squad that finished 16th last season, by the same measure Mourinho 'inherited' a squad that finished 6th and not the perennial top 4 you 'stretched for'.

If you want to go by the last full season when we finished 4th, then West Ham finished 10th

Mixing and matching like you did is simply stretching the truth.
 
Didnt lie, simply corrected your misrepresentation.

Both Mourinho and Moyes took over midway through the 2019/20, so same measure should and can be easily applied.

Since Moyes 'inherited' a squad that finished 16th last season, by the same measure Mourinho 'inherited' a squad that finished 6th and not the perennial top 4 you 'stretched for'.

If you want to go by the last full season when we finished 4th, then West Ham finished 10th

Mixing and matching like you did is simply stretching the truth.
Why did you lie about where West ham finnished?
 
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