Jose Mourinho

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The fact he is still in a job is an absolute farce at this point - I'll tune in for the cup final and that will be me until he fucks off.

Bar the goalscoring of Kane there is not a single thing to like about this team.

Attitude - abysmal, defending - abysmal, character - non existant, style - abysmal.
 
The mentality thing makes me sick in my mouth. It's the type of talk you expect to hear from the likes of Souness and Keane. Give me a certain level of technical ability and a system that gets the best out of it, and then you're going somewhere.
100% agree. But IMO mentality is super important in Sport and is IMO the defining difference at the top of the game (whatever it happens to be). BUT this defining "mentality" isn't seen by us, or the press, it's rarely witnessed by anyone outside of the environment of the individual. The mentality is in the application of improvement which is required for training, to be obsessed with the detail of a freekick the ability to repeat a technical aspect of their control. To self analyse and repeat this over and over again, day after day, week after week. It's a kind of OCD (it might even be OCD with some, I've heard it said of Beckham, Gazza and the Ruby player Jonny Wilkinson who would all set a target of doing something 'X' times and if any of them failed, they would start over until they completed it, sometimes this would go on for hours).

What is nonsense is if someone who claims that winning mentality is someone who only thinks of winning and therefore that makes them a winner.

Winning is the result of the application in improvements. It's going into a competition confident that you know that no one trained harder. Fear is a big inhibitor in sport, it manifests in the minds of professionals who know that they haven't trained as hard as their opposite number or opponent, this is when someone is already beaten before they take to the field.

It's also why I think there was a lot of PR surrounding Poch's (and Bielsa's training regimes), rest assured other teams also train just as hard, but having the players believe that they have trained harder maybe the 1% marginal gain required (in a team multiply 1% x 11 players and that's the difference between winning and losing).

The above is not just about being fitter, or believing you are fitter, it also applies to technical ability too. Technical players all work really hard on improving their technical ability, but if they believe in their technical ability, then they are more than likely to feel confident to use it. This is amplified when they play for a coach who helps facilitate the technical ability of their players.

But I stress, none of this is seen and if it has been it's still not quantified, watching a team or an individual train without seeing the opposition results in bullshit analysis, but if the Clubs make a thing about it like they have with Beisla and Poch, it means it gets reinforced by the media which helps, even more, the player buy-in.
 
To all Mourinho supporters, please list all the positives since he took over that should warrant him another season. Don’t bullshit me with he needs time and transfers, the players are shit etc, tell me what he has improved at Spurs in 18 months cause I can’t see a damn thing he’s done above expectations like a manager of his caliber should do.
He has 20 titles.... /S

I, braggadociously, have been anti Jose since the first murmur he was headed here.
 
Agree 100 % with that mate
You know don't know if I do agree totally. If you look at the problem of one of simply buying shit cheap players.

We just seem to scout badly and coach the virtues out of the talent we get. Bergwijn started brightly and was turned in to the most defensive winger in history. Whatever his true level he us better than we have seen.

We went from scouting the English leagues well, to just buying shit players even the expensive ones like Sanchez. The three below cost roughly what we paid for Davinson in hard cash. If you look at our back room staff there's been a lot of churn over the last few years and our scouting has got progressively poorer.

Soucek 5.m
Fofana 35.m
Bissouma 10m * bonuses up to 14
 
100% agree. But IMO mentality is super important in Sport and is IMO the defining difference at the top of the game (whatever it happens to be). BUT this defining "mentality" isn't seen by us, or the press, it's rarely witnessed by anyone outside of the environment of the individual. The mentality is in the application of improvement which is required for training, to be obsessed with the detail of a freekick the ability to repeat a technical aspect of their control. To self analyse and repeat this over and over again, day after day, week after week. It's a kind of OCD (it might even be OCD with some, I've heard it said of Beckham, Gazza and the Ruby player Jonny Wilkinson who would all set a target of doing something 'X' times and if any of them failed, they would start over until they completed it, sometimes this would go on for hours).

What is nonsense is if someone who claims that winning mentality is someone who only thinks of winning and therefore that makes them a winner.

Winning is the result of the application in improvements. It's going into a competition confident that you know that no one trained harder. Fear is a big inhibitor in sport, it manifests in the minds of professionals who know that they haven't trained as hard as their opposite number or opponent, this is when someone is already beaten before they take to the field.

It's also why I think there was a lot of PR surrounding Poch's (and Bielsa's training regimes), rest assured other teams also train just as hard, but having the players believe that they have trained harder maybe the 1% marginal gain required (in a team multiply 1% x 11 players and that's the difference between winning and losing).

The above is not just about being fitter, or believing you are fitter, it also applies to technical ability too. Technical players all work really hard on improving their technical ability, but if they believe in their technical ability, then they are more than likely to feel confident to use it. This is amplified when they play for a coach who helps facilitate the technical ability of their players.

But I stress, none of this is seen and if it has been it's still not quantified, watching a team or an individual train without seeing the opposition results in bullshit analysis, but if the Clubs make a thing about it like they have with Beisla and Poch, it means it gets reinforced by the media which helps, even more, the player buy-in.
Winning mentality was encapsulated by the great Gary player when responding to criticism that he was fortunate on the golf course.
"The harder I train, the luckier I get"
Sanchez has all the attributes to be a good defender.
I can't help wondering if intensive coaching on a prolonged 1 to 1 basis would decrease the amount of basic errors he makes per game.
Jose from his comments seems to have given up on a number of our defenders, and
I can't see him going outside the club for a specialist defensive coach to help improve
what is one of the worst spurs defences I've ever seen.
All very depressing.
 
The combination of his tactics along with results not going our way is worse than misery. Yes, our defence is absolutely shocking, but it was Kane and Inshallah against bloody Steve Bruce's Newcastle for crying out loud.

Up until the 2-0 game against Woolwich it was tolerable, now it's a win there, a draw there, a couple of losses there and rinse and repeat. No consistency and you can't get confident watching us against any side at the moment.
 
Winning mentality was encapsulated by the great Gary player when responding to criticism that he was fortunate on the golf course.
"The harder I train, the luckier I get"
Sanchez has all the attributes to be a good defender.
I can't help wondering if intensive coaching on a prolonged 1 to 1 basis would decrease the amount of basic errors he makes per game.
Jose from his comments seems to have given up on a number of our defenders, and
I can't see him going outside the club for a specialist defensive coach to help improve
what is one of the worst spurs defences I've ever seen.
All very depressing.
Sanchez has been playing for a while now and if he hasn’t picked up the basics of simply marking a manager by now then no matter what defensive coach you get in it won’t make any difference
 
I agree. Also, even though Mourinho compensation = less transfer money, giving him money to spend on 'his' type of players and then sacking him in a year anyway would be an even bigger waste.

I mean, he bought Bailly at Utd didn't he? Lindelof, Fred, Matic? He didn't get a tune out of them. Why spend money on Jose targets and then lumber the next guy with working with them. Just get the next guy now and let him spend whatever money we do have in the summer.
Giving Mourinho the summer and money would be catastrophic

Diego Costa up front and Matic in midfield

At least they’d listen to his instructions?
 
Winning mentality was encapsulated by the great Gary player when responding to criticism that he was fortunate on the golf course.
"The harder I train, the luckier I get"
Sanchez has all the attributes to be a good defender.
I can't help wondering if intensive coaching on a prolonged 1 to 1 basis would decrease the amount of basic errors he makes per game.
Jose from his comments seems to have given up on a number of our defenders, and
I can't see him going outside the club for a specialist defensive coach to help improve
what is one of the worst spurs defences I've ever seen.
All very depressing.
The best defence I've ever seen at Spurs was only a few years ago, the difference was not the back four but how the WHOLE team defended. Especially the way we pressed high up the pitch and in midfield how they forced the danger out wide and contained most attacks. The result was the oppo barely had any attacks against us.

The worst defence I've seen is this one, not because of the back four but because like yesterday coughed up 22 oppo shots (by one of the worst attacking teams in the league), those chances were created by us not pressing the oppo high up the pitch, not having our midfield played through.

Before we talk about individuals we first have to have a system that helps the individuals perform. That the players understand and have bought into.

Sanchez may have some faults but he's under so much pressure (as all the defenders are) that it's inevitable the oppo will score from the chances they create. This genuinely isn't about our back four, it has everything to do with how we are set up.
 
Sanchez has been playing for a while now and if he hasn’t picked up the basics of simply marking a manager by now then no matter what defensive coach you get in it won’t make any difference
I'm reaching I know with that suggestion and I personally think long term we have to get rid.
Some games though he does look half competent compared to the absolute shitshow we seen yesterday.
 
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