Mauricio Pochettino

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If you haven’t picked up on this then you clearly haven’t been paying attention. But please answer answer me this, if an investment consortium headed by individual with doesn’t actually even like football, doesn’t extract revenue from a club where will they see a return on their capital? What is their motive for owning the club?

Sorry mate, I only come on here mostly in the mornings now.

I don't need to answer your question as I am not claiming anything.

I'm not saying that you are wrong, only that you have NO evidence that this is the case.

The same way as I have NO evidence that this is not the case.

You stated it as a fact that ENIC will sell, there is absolutely no evidence for such a claim.

Enic could of sold the club 2 years ago when we were getting CL football
Instead they have invested £1 billion in new infrastructure with a debt of £400m, they may well sell the club once the debt has been paid off, to sell it off before that makes no sense financially.

 

[sammyspurs]

Poch getting too Harry for me.......an article every day it seems.
Get off the mic and get your team playing the way you want them to.
Starting tonight

 

[StripiestPilot]

I think mindset is the final piece in the puzzle for many teams. Ranieri had it bang on when they won, Fergie always had them believing, Jose the same. You can see teams getting close but failing at the last minute... the mental and belief side is probably the most difficult to coach.

I find it interesting how we do medicals before a transfer but how about psychometric profiling? Can't we identify the traits top players need and make sure we don't get people who are only interested in the wage and flashy cars.

I truly believe we have a nucleus of players who give a shit (Kane, Winks, Sissoko, Lamella) but half the team isn't enough. Everyone of those players stepping on the pitch or sitting on the bench needs to want to win above everything else and believe they can make the difference if things aren't going their way.

It's strength of character so for me metal profiling is a big part.

Maybe we already do this, who knows...

I think all the players that are here give a shit. That’s why we’ve won so many games and are likely going to be in the last 8 of the CL.

We just don’t quite give as much of a shit as the players of City and Liverpool. To win a title you have to be willing to die on the pitch and give everything. Nobody on that pitch at Burnley could say they gave their best. Even if we had there are no guarantees that we would win, but did we even force Tom Heaton to make a save? Did we ever really make them suffer? From minute 1 to minute 90 Burnley were enjoying the game, we have allowed many opponents to enjoy at least 45 minutes of stress-free football this season.

The players set a standard this season when they played Chelsea at Wembley and went for the jugular straight away. We played ruthless football that day. There is no excuse not to start every game with that same intensity, certainly not when the title is within our reach and we’ve had 10 days rest. Poch is absolutely right that the result was a consequence of our weak mentality, the same as the games we lost to Watford and Wolves.

 

[Kekerinho]

Or Burnley were a joke today and weren't on Saturday....

Poch was just as at fault for the result on Saturday - him blaming the players or being fucked off with the team is pathetic.

I don't agree with this. Players didn't show once in that game that they have the bottle to win. They looked like a group of turds put together for the first time in a team. If we had played great football but lost because of those individual tactical mistakes you're talking about then fair enough. But we played like shit because the players had an awful attitude for such an important game.

 

[For better or worse]

I think all the players that are here give a shit. That’s why we’ve won so many games and are likely going to be in the last 8 of the CL.

We just don’t quite give as much of a shit as the players of City and Liverpool. To win a title you have to be willing to die on the pitch and give everything. Nobody on that pitch at Burnley could say they gave their best. Even if we had there are no guarantees that we would win, but did we even force Tom Heaton to make a save? Did we ever really make them suffer? From minute 1 to minute 90 Burnley were enjoying the game, we have allowed many opponents to enjoy at least 45 minutes of stress-free football this season.

The players set a standard this season when they played Chelsea at Wembley and went for the jugular straight away. We played ruthless football that day. There is no excuse not to start every game with that same intensity, certainly not when the title is within our reach and we’ve had 10 days rest. Poch is absolutely right that the result was a consequence of our weak mentality, the same as the games we lost to Watford and Wolves.

It's about giving a shit and having the right mentality throughout the season, especially for the smaller games. That is the point, where are the leaders when we need that extra kick. All the players should fight like their lives depended on it. It's in adversity that the mental strength shines through. It's why selection for the special forces takes so long. They aren't looking for people with the ultimate skills or best fitness but those with the correct attitude and mental strength.

Clearly football isn't as important as going to war but you get my point. Mental strength is a massively important trait and perhaps overlooked.

 

[ShutUpPatrik]

I think mindset is the final piece in the puzzle for many teams. Ranieri had it bang on when they won, Fergie always had them believing, Jose the same. You can see teams getting close but failing at the last minute... the mental and belief side is probably the most difficult to coach.

I find it interesting how we do medicals before a transfer but how about psychometric profiling? Can't we identify the traits top players need and make sure we don't get people who are only interested in the wage and flashy cars.

I truly believe we have a nucleus of players who give a shit (Kane, Winks, Sissoko, Lamella) but half the team isn't enough. Everyone of those players stepping on the pitch or sitting on the bench needs to want to win above everything else and believe they can make the difference if things aren't going their way.

It's strength of character so for me metal profiling is a big part.

Maybe we already do this, who knows...

I don't know if I would straight up add him to your list, but Rose obviously gives a shit on his day. Depends on his mood really. Jan as well.

We need to build around this nucleus and add some hungry younger talent as well as some more experienced players with titles to their names. Not necesarrily starters or such from Madrid or Barca but having a few veterans in the mold of Llorente to impart that bit of wisdom can go a long way to building that mentality.

 

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[TheSpurEst]

Oh thanks for that I’m only a fellow in my respective financial field so it nice to be have the basics outlined to me. And why not try reading what I actually wrote - it’s quite clear what their intention is - it was always to capitalise on the global commercialisation of the English game and via developing the clubs infrastructure. That is where they will realise their profit - there is nothing in it for them beyond that. They not here for any love for the club - and I don’t begrudge them because they have benefited the club by doing this and provided the coach with one of the best teams in the league.

Well, I do not know what you do, but I know what you asked.
You asked that if they are not exctracting money from club, where do they get their return. I answered this (really noobish sounding) question at it's face value. Simple as.

And yea, I do not disagree that investment in the club is made with a plan to profit from it. But that is hardly a bad thing. As you (and most others here) are aware - this is how the capitalistic system works. Apple is not making iPhones because of their kindness- they make it to earn money and if people like this product, they are creating value by it.

 

[Sam161993]

The comments are a bit ridiculous by Poch if I'm honest. We were praising the team in the previous 3 weeks by scoring late goals etc, that showed the players mentality... We don't know what happens in the changing room ofcourse, but we can all say that that result against Burnley had been coming. We have played poorly (by our standards) for 70% of games this year and we finally got caught out on Saturday. Poch needs to step up tonight and on Sunday and deliver as much as the players.

 

[ArtyB]

He needs 10 years - he is actually taking the piss now. It’s starting to get an awful whiff of Moyes at Everton.

This thread is going to be fucking massive...

 

[StripiestPilot]

It's about giving a shit and having the right mentality throughout the season, especially for the smaller games. That is the point, where are the leaders when we need that extra kick. All the players should fight like their lives depended on it. It's in adversity that the mental strength shines through. It's why selection for the special forces takes so long. They aren't looking for people with the ultimate skills or best fitness but those with the correct attitude and mental strength.

Clearly football isn't as important as going to war but you get my point. Mental strength is a massively important trait and perhaps overlooked.

I don’t think it’s overlooked by Poch. When we lost 5-1 to Newcastle a couple of seasons ago and threw away second place he said the same things.

He knows what is needed but it takes a long time to change these things, especially when you don’t have the money to bring in established winners.

 

[1882]

Poch getting too Harry for me.......an article every day it seems.
Get off the mic and get your team playing the way you want them to.
Starting tonight

If that's the case, we can expect some more signings this Summer then!!

 

[Notabadsquad]

I think mindset is the final piece in the puzzle for many teams. Ranieri had it bang on when they won, Fergie always had them believing, Jose the same. You can see teams getting close but failing at the last minute... the mental and belief side is probably the most difficult to coach.

I find it interesting how we do medicals before a transfer but how about psychometric profiling? Can't we identify the traits top players need and make sure we don't get people who are only interested in the wage and flashy cars.

I truly believe we have a nucleus of players who give a shit (Kane, Winks, Sissoko, Lamella) but half the team isn't enough. Everyone of those players stepping on the pitch or sitting on the bench needs to want to win above everything else and believe they can make the difference if things aren't going their way.

It's strength of character so for me metal profiling is a big part.

Maybe we already do this, who knows...

There really is too much talk of the near miracle of Leicester and Ranieri.

Truth is they took advantage and we didn't. They built momentum, had not one but 6 or 7 players who had their best ever season. They also had 4 or 5 players who for that one season were the best in their position in the Premier League. It was an absolute winning euro millions ticket type odds of a lifetime.

We are just an odd club. Our squad is not this season as good as City's but it's the equal, arguably of all the other 4 top teams, give or take.

We fall short because it's in our DNA. No other explanation, because it's now 4 or 5 years.

The CL qualification in that time, even if I think it is just a sop to get money shows we have the quality, but we need to cross the line and that means winning something. The failure is so apparent and so fcuking painful.

Saturday was a choke job and one that revealed a lack of mentality.

 

[skywalker68]

There really is too much talk of the near miracle of Leicester and Ranieri.

Truth is they took advantage and we didn't. They built momentum, had not one but 6 or 7 players who had their best ever season. They also had 4 or 5 players who for that one season were the best in their position in the Premier League. It was an absolute winning euro millions ticket type odds of a lifetime.

We are just an odd club. Our squad is not this season as good as City's but it's the equal, arguably of all the other 4 top teams, give or take.

We fall short because it's in our DNA. No other explanation, because it's now 4 or 5 years.

The CL qualification in that time, even if I think it is just a sop to get money shows we have the quality, but we need to cross the line and that means winning something. The failure is so apparent and so fcuking painful.

Saturday was a choke job and one that revealed a lack of mentality.

Where is the X 10 winner rating for your post.

 

[Totti]

There really is too much talk of the near miracle of Leicester and Ranieri.

Truth is they took advantage and we didn't. They built momentum, had not one but 6 or 7 players who had their best ever season. They also had 4 or 5 players who for that one season were the best in their position in the Premier League. It was an absolute winning euro millions ticket type odds of a lifetime.

We are just an odd club. Our squad is not this season as good as City's but it's the equal, arguably of all the other 4 top teams, give or take.

We fall short because it's in our DNA. No other explanation, because it's now 4 or 5 years.

The CL qualification in that time, even if I think it is just a sop to get money shows we have the quality, but we need to cross the line and that means winning something. The failure is so apparent and so fcuking painful.

Saturday was a choke job and one that revealed a lack of mentality.

It's the clubs way of dealing with expectation. They can't.

Stay within 5 points? No doubt. Easy. But have the chance to potentially go 2 points behind and the league in your own hands? Nope. Can't do it.

Semi finals of cups.. Great chance to get to that one off final where anything can happen and win that trophy for Poch... Nope. Can't do it.

Beat 10 man Woolwich at home to go top of the table for the first time since 2014... Nope. Can't.

Smash every other team though to just stay in distance. Sorted.

I said it after the Burnley game. If we were 10 points off 1st and 10 points clear of 4th, we probably win the game and quire comfortably too.

 

[Blanchflower]

I think mindset is the final piece in the puzzle for many teams. Ranieri had it bang on when they won, Fergie always had them believing, Jose the same. You can see teams getting close but failing at the last minute... the mental and belief side is probably the most difficult to coach.

I find it interesting how we do medicals before a transfer but how about psychometric profiling? Can't we identify the traits top players need and make sure we don't get people who are only interested in the wage and flashy cars.

I truly believe we have a nucleus of players who give a shit (Kane, Winks, Sissoko, Lamella) but half the team isn't enough. Everyone of those players stepping on the pitch or sitting on the bench needs to want to win above everything else and believe they can make the difference if things aren't going their way.

It's strength of character so for me metal profiling is a big part.

Maybe we already do this, who knows...

I don't know about that, you can have every player with the correct mindset and attitude and still get fucked over by something outside of your control.

The margins are so small in football, you need loads and loads of things to align at once to be successful.

 

[For better or worse]

I don't know about that, you can have every player with the correct mindset and attitude and still get fucked over by something outside of your control.

The margins are so small in football, you need loads and loads of things to align at once to be successful.

totally agree, like the man u game. Battered them and it just didn't go our way however there have been a couple of times this season when mentality might have been the culprit. We sort that out and it's another 6-9 points a season and might be just enough to get us there.

 

[Tottenham Sean]

If that's the case, we can expect some more signings this Summer then!!

Or at least an interview out of a car door window...

 

[TheSpurEst]

Very interesting approach and thought process from Poch. Is he being realistic or is he trying to frighten the players into thinking that if they don't focus and believe more then the opportunity will pass them by?

Using the timeframe of 5-10 years is fascinating. Most of the players will be retired by then so is he using this timeframe to scare them into taking their careers more seriously? Is he sticking it up them to get their heads more focused at vital moments or is there nothing to it and he's just managing expectations?

Personally I like this approach. If they have it in them to truly win they will react to this and it'll help them mature, take that next step in their heads etc. If they slump their shoulders, throw the towel in then they didn't have enough in them to get there. Does this make them want to prove a point? Give them a chip on their shoulders and want to prove the manager wrong? I think this is excellent from Pochettino, I think he's done everything right to ensure the players take responsibility as if they don't their short careers and all they could have achieved will pass them by.

Time to step up to the plate perhaps? Time will tell

I do not buy into this method.
If Mourinho went out and said that he is not happy with players X, Y and Z, then did it make them want to prove him wrong, or did it make them play like donkeys and be really unmotivated?
Well it is not as harsh in this case, so it is not fully the same, but there is bit of similar principles involved.

It might equally be a message that say Eriksen, Alli and Kane will take as "Ah, okay, so during my career, we will not win anything according to gaffers view, so if I want to win titles I have to find other place to do it."

To me this interview sounds quite undermining to confidence. He has had now almost 5 years to instill winning mentality to the team. Asking 10 more is just admitting that he will not have what it takes to guide us to trophies.

 

[TheSpurEst]

I don't agree with this. Players didn't show once in that game that they have the bottle to win. They looked like a group of turds put together for the first time in a team. If we had played great football but lost because of those individual tactical mistakes you're talking about then fair enough. But we played like shit because the players had an awful attitude for such an important game.

But isn't that part of manager's job to get them focused and motivated?
I agree that we looked bad on the pitch. And those who are on the pitch were players. I mean if we would have lost due to awful mistake of 1 or 2 players, we might point fingers to them. But the fact is that pretty much every single player on the field did bad in this game. And if it is collective issue, I believe it is down to manager more than it is to players.

For example in game against ManU we cannot have a single complaint against Poch - we put them under immense pressure, created chances and were solid in defence for the most of the game. This is "one of those" days. But Burnley game was very much different in my eyes.