I think the issue is they aren't minding their own business. They've bribed their way into holding the best tournament on earth. If they don't want to welcome the world, they shouldn't have invited them with brown envelopes.
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I think the issue is they aren't minding their own business. They've bribed their way into holding the best tournament on earth. If they don't want to welcome the world, they shouldn't have invited them with brown envelopes.
Oh wow it was that guy last night? He was terrible
Surely as the guests they should cater to us? If i have a Vegetarian coming round mine for dinner I wouldn't expect them to eat Steak or go Hungry!
FIFA have shown themselves to be completely incapable of reforming themselves and UEFA have proven to be impotent to do anything about it. I can’t imagine we won’t see some kind of change after this.
If I were one of the clubs pushing for a breakaway from the current guard — whether that be a Super League or something else —I would be licking my lips.
If I were one of the clubs pushing for a breakaway from the current guard — whether that be a Super League or something else —I would be licking my lips.
Agreed but what about the people of Qatar, the ones who are ingrained into a culture and a belief system they're not the ones who bribed their way to host the tournament, it was the Qatar FA so you're not thinking about them.
The Saudis are WAY ahead of you
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The funny thing is that the majority of crusaders were French or German.
Oh and that isn't St. George's Cross either.
As an aside, how do the French view the crusaders , do they glorify it as we do, dress up etc ?
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That's correct, Shadydan, but I don't have to give up my philosophy of life.
And yes, Qatar is hosting, but I can draw attention to what happened to the people who built the stadiums and infrastructure.
No, they - the people of Qatar - don't have to agree with my attitude and adopt it.
At a public event, however, I must be allowed to make my opinion public.
Unfortunately that didn't happen under the military dictatorship in Argentina, unfortunately it didn't happen at the World Cup in Russia and unfortunately it didn't happen at the Olympic Games - BUT it's happening now - and I think that's a good thing!
They’re only dressing up as crusaders in as much that that’s how they envision St George, the patron Saint of England. This really has doesn’t have anything to do with the religious warfare aspect at all.The funny thing is that the majority of crusaders were French or German.
Oh and that isn't St. George's Cross either.
As an aside, how do the French view the crusaders , do they glorify it as we do, dress up etc ?
My understanding is that these fans were allowed to proceed having removed their swords.
This is a different argument you've presented here and I agree with it entirely.
Thank you!
When you're in their country you do, if you don't you end up in prison.
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coughymachine
said 'respect' is the wrong word I think, it's more abide by, that's the point Andros is making, that's allI I'm saying.I'll agree with you though, the outrage ought to be with FIFA more than anyone else.
Agreed, which is why Western teams and fans should have stayed well away from that backwards cesspit.
They wanted the attention of the world...well, they've got it. They have vile attitudes and policies filled with hatred, so fuck them back to the Hell they crawled out of. Genuinely the scum of the Earth.
I despair of these total morons. "Let's go to the football dressed as Crusaders - best not forget the swords."
I disagree with your view.When you're in their country you do, if you don't you end up in prison.
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I'll agree with you though, the outrage ought to be with FIFA more than anyone else.
All injustices against people regardless of anything should be challenged.
I didnt really know you glorified the crusades. I’ve never seen it but isn’t Monty Python a parody of that?The funny thing is that the majority of crusaders were French or German.
Oh and that isn't St. George's Cross either.
As an aside, how do the French view the crusaders , do they glorify it as we do, dress up etc ?
In France the crusades are not a source of national pride. That was Rome pulling the strings with the help of the king and the church. We had a revolution to remove their influence from public life so we’re not about to celebrate the bitches whose heads we cut off.
You’re more likely to see people dress as Astérix and Obelix, the plucky Gauls who fought off the sophisticated but foreign romans.
I disagree with your view.
All injustices against people regardless of anything should be challenged.
ok
Yeah, we glorify Richard the Lionheart.
Despite the fact he spent very little time , 6 months only,in England (he much preferred France) didn't speak much English, bled the country dry in taxes to fund his wars,failed in the crusade and got captured on his way home costing the country a kings ransom.......literally.
Oh and was buried in France.
fair enough really. Sounds like a great guy
Richard the Lionheart really did get a good press from British history, whilst his truth is somewhat more chequered.fair enough really. Sounds like a great guy
As mentioned above, he spent little time in England whilst King (around 6 months from 10 years), had issues with the Jewish London population (wasn't the only one, of course) - it's reported that on the day of his Coronation, he had 'thousands' of Jews killed in London - he really had little time for England was one of his quotes was that if he could sell London (to further fund his crusades), he would have.
All the above is simplified to a degree but here we often make the unfair comparison against his brother, King John/John of Lackland (as he was known - the last child in the family didn't get land inheritance and were generally expected to into the church). John was weak and far from perfect but populist history always makes Richard the hero and John the Villain, even in Disney cartoon form. The truth, as is often, somewhere away from the extremes.