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Reading some of the replies he's retweeting. "if anyone disagrees they've missed the point". Don't know what he said on talkSPORT but that seems utterly ridiculous to say he's right and everyone who disagrees is wrong.
Just found this
they've just played a brief snatch, and he did throw that line out "95% of them aren't jewish, so they are reclaiming a race hate word that doesn't concern them, and it means that west ham, Woolwich and all the others (didnt mention chelsea, funnily) can sing all this stuff, as far as as Nazism, using the excuse that's ok, they call themselves that"..or words to that effectDid he say anything that held actual weight this time or did he regurgitate the same tired "if they stop chanting it it will stop the problem" bullshit again?
Did he say anything that held actual weight this time or did he regurgitate the same tired "if they stop chanting it it will stop the problem" bullshit again?
The cunts will still be cunts anyway.they've just played a brief snatch, and he did throw that line out "95% of them aren't jewish, so they are reclaiming a race hate word that doesn't concern them, and it means that west ham, Woolwich and all the others (didnt mention chelsea, funnily) can sing all this stuff, as far as as Nazism, using the excuse that's ok, they call themselves that"..or words to that effect
Thanks @ Johnboy40 and @ Sunglasses Ron
I find it rich that the guy who blacked up and put a pineapple on his head to mock Jason Lee and did a "Phoenix From The Flames" for Avi Cohen that was utterly laced with Spurs references simply down to his Jewishness should be any kind of mouthpiece when it comes to offending people.
Just found this
The cunts will still be cunts anyway.
And to put a positive spin on it, surely us non-jews saying it is good? Saying we're proud of the club's jewish background, and that it's okay to be a jew?
Thanks @ Johnboy40 and @ Sunglasses Ron
I find it rich that the guy who blacked up and put a pineapple on his head to mock Jason Lee and did a "Phoenix From The Flames" for Avi Cohen that was utterly laced with Spurs references simply down to his Jewishness should be any kind of mouthpiece when it comes to offending people.
Did he say anything that held actual weight this time or did he regurgitate the same tired "if they stop chanting it it will stop the problem" bullshit again?
Just found this
they've just played a brief snatch, and he did throw that line out "95% of them aren't jewish, so they are reclaiming a race hate word that doesn't concern them, and it means that west ham, Woolwich and all the others (didnt mention chelsea, funnily) can sing all this stuff, as far as as Nazism, using the excuse that's ok, they call themselves that"..or words to that effect
Here’s a new entrant to the pantheon of not-so-great ideas: to protect Jews from anti-Semitism, the Football Association has decided that thousands of Jews should be prosecuted for hate speech. (can't post the link, sorry)
Genius or what?
I’m a Spurs fan. I’m also Jewish. For various reasons – some geographic, some historic – we Jewish Spurs fans think of Spurs as "the Jewish team". Yes, we know lots of Jews support other teams. Yes, we know lots of Spurs fans aren’t Jewish. But to a Jewish Spurs fan – and to plenty of non-Jewish Spurs fans, too – we are indeed the Jewish team.
And as part of that identification, we call ourselves – proudly – the Yid Army. Not all of us, of course. But a very sizeable proportion.
It stems partly as a way of reclaiming the word Yid from those who shout it as an insult, in much the same way as some gay people call themselves queer.
It’s our word, and we take it as a badge of pride.
And when a player joins us, he becomes a Yiddo. Hence the chant, when Jermain Defoe scores for us, "Jermain Defoe, he’s a Yiddo".
As a Jew, I am genuinely uplifted when I hear tens of thousands of people – Jews and non-Jews alike – chanting the Y word.
Apparently, however, I am guilty of hate speech and should be handed a criminal record and banned from the games.
On Tuesday, the FA’s general secretary, Alex Horne, said that the word Yid “is likely to be considered offensive by the reasonable observer and considers the term to be inappropriate in a football setting.”
He went on to argue that “use of the term in a public setting could amount to a criminal offence, and leave those fans liable to prosecution and potentially a lengthy football banning order.”
I despair of these people. Is the general secretary of the FA really so deaf to context that he cannot tell the difference between people shouting the word as a term of endearment and pride, and a racist skinhead who means it as a form hate.
It’s the same with the n-word. If a black man or woman chooses to be described in such a way (I don’t want to spell it out precisely because it is so easy to take such an argument out of context) then is he or she guilty of hate speech?
Whereas if a BNP member is chanting "N*****s out", then clearly it is hate speech.
The point is pretty basic. Context matters.
I want to call my team the Yid Army. I want to our players to be called – by me and other Spurs fans, because it’s our right and our pride – Yiddos.
But when it’s spat out, alongside a hiss to mimic the gas chambers, then it’s hate speech.
It’s really not difficult to spot the difference.
I might take the FA a bit more seriously if they paid the slightest attention to that Chelsea hissing. Hissing might not be "speech" but it’s intention is as clear as any word.
Not a peep from the FA, however.
Instead, they are arguing that the best way to protect Jews from anti-Semitic abuse is to criminalise some of us.
Thanks, but I’ll look elsewhere for protection.
"The reason you're calling it the Y word is because me and my brother Ivor made a film called "The Y Word" "
some bollocks about stats and then the usual y word encourages the abuse schtick
"I understand them saying they use it as a defense mechanism." Some comment referring to knowing why it started and then "But we've moved on from then"
We've raised awareness and it's used less at Chelsea since it was shown
It's apparently not about us and then he states that he used to dread Spurs v Chelsea because of how our fans identifying themselves as Y word and Y word army would cause songs about Auschwitz