If Switzerland don't win at least 2-0 I'd be surprised.
Southgate seems totally incapable of noticing the issues in the team.
Southgate seems totally incapable of noticing the issues in the team.
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Who is bragging?
If you were doing something for a living instead of a hobby you would look at things differently.
He was doing a good job with what he inherited... Up until a point....
That point being; as the honeymoon-period faded (2018 being a free hit cos of Fat Sam's fuck up) and the squad quality rose, he simply hasn't grown nor adapted as expectation rightfully increased. Instead; he developed a siege mentality (from questions asked of him) and became stubborn (also his selection criteria and rationale became increasingly contradictory).
The extent of Gary-Ball was always to hold off the oppo, have Rashford & Sterling create havoc out wide and hopefully Kane picks up the scraps. Tactically he's never held any answers when that plan has faltered.
His biggest achievement was always fixing the culture and making England fun again (for fans and players alike) - we won knockout games, won a lot of 'should win' games, won a pen shootout in a WC and beat Germany in a game that mattered - but as you rightly note; that's all since gone up in smoke........ The shirt weighs heavy once more.
He peaked in 2021.
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Said it before the Euros started on here. He’s a complete donkey. No tactical skills, odd behaviour around sticking with his favourites, etc. Now because he’s had some success with that the man believes he can do no wrong. That’s what’s so infuriating. He should have become a more experienced manager by now but instead all he’s become is arrogant. Hopefully, this will be his last tournament, you can see he’s lost some of the players this time.
He’s demented. Could be he gets a twisted kick out of throwing his benchies on when they have no chance to do anything. Or he actually thinks it’s effective. Either way, no England manager has made as many subs in the last 10mins of normal time as him % wise.
Him crowing about ‘this is why you don’t sub too many players on sillies!’ made me wanna put my foot through a screen.
Nobody wanted you to sub Bellingham you fucking idiot. Mainly they wanted Trent and Gordon on for the players dropping disasterclasses.
You’re not a fucking tactical genius because La ligas player of the season whacked in an overhead kick from a long throw in the 94th minute against Slovakia. You’re just a fucking idiot Gareth.
Actually winds me up that he’s gone away feeling vindicated. That team wasn’t creating shit. They’d almost all accepted going out, heads were fully down and gone. We had nothing. Absolute one in a million Hail Mary worked.
He’s praising us for staying patient too. You cock. You absolute cock. We didn’t create anything. Patience isn’t a virtue if it achieves nothing. We equalised because someone said ‘fuck it’ and abandoned patience. He’s an absolute fucking loon when it comes to media stuff this tournament.
I also do honestly think he sees fans/pundits demand something and it makes him more stubbornly oppose doing it. His refusal to use Gordon at all, the way he resisted ever using Grealish, continuing the totally failing Foden at LW crap… I swear he gets a smug sense of superiority out of it.
There’s no way he is seeing certain things and believes it is working. Do we think there’s any chance Gordon being the most open/critical of our performances in the media got him in trouble too? Players seem to be singing from the same North Korea inspired hymn sheet this tournament.
There’s no way he is seeing certain things and believes it is working. Do we think there’s any chance Gordon being the most open/critical of our performances in the media got him in trouble too? Players seem to be singing from the same North Korea inspired hymn sheet this tournament.
He is but 2/3 years of apologists crowing "best manager in 60 years" bollocks have helped birth the 'beast' we see before us today.
Nobody is bragging but some people are definitely going into a meltdown over it, especially the foreign Spurs fan.
Y'all know we're an English club, right?
Only England fans get this reaction and it's truly bizarre. Go and support a Spanish or German or Scottish (haha) club side.
Foden managing nearly 90 minutes should be grounds for some kind of investigation. Clearly a player who just doesn’t enjoy playing for us, probably a combo of overthinking it in an England shirt and the style we play. He wants to do it desperately, too much pressure on him.
So Gareth sticks him on the left with a fullback who can’t overlap and watches him stink the place out for 90 minutes repeatedly. Genius.
Time to ditch the formation we've now been playing with for four games and hasn't worked once. We should bring in Watkins to partner Kane. Play a 4-3-1-2 formation with Bellingham behind Kane and Watkins. Give the Swiss something different to think about. Saka has been average this tournament and looks tired ,while Foden is still nowhere near what he is for City every week. He's not going to suddenly start putting Gordon and Palmer on from the start now.
I genuinely can't believe that two players were crying out for, the pace and energy of Gordon and the composure and intelligence of Wharton, have been completely ignored by Southgate.
I genuinely can't believe that two players were crying out for, the pace and energy of Gordon and the composure and intelligence of Wharton, have been completely ignored by Southgate.
Southgate is delusional, he was an incredible goal away from sending this country into absolute meltdown after what so far has been one of the worst Euros to watch from an England point of view.
I don't know why he's become so stubborn and infuriating, the bloke thinks he's prime Sir Alex Ferguson despite winning absolutely fuck all.
We were fucked yesterday, we had no clue. It was a moment from Jude that's prolonged our stay in this tournament, however a tough match against the Swiss awaits.
I don't know why he's become so stubborn and infuriating, the bloke thinks he's prime Sir Alex Ferguson despite winning absolutely fuck all.
We were fucked yesterday, we had no clue. It was a moment from Jude that's prolonged our stay in this tournament, however a tough match against the Swiss awaits.
Watkins WITH Kane seems so obvious.
At present, I can't see anything other than a convincing Swiss win.
No one who's seen the last four matches can have any confidence or belief that we can turn it around anymore.
After Serbia I was disappointed, after Denmark I was still thinking it's early days, after Slovenia I started to worry but then thought we'd improve drastically in the knockouts.
After yesterday, I just can't see beyond another awful England performance. It's some of the worst displays I've seen since the Nations League.
At least in other tournaments there was a semblance of a team underneath all the negativity.
We had two shots on target against Slovakia in 120 minutes of football.
No one who's seen the last four matches can have any confidence or belief that we can turn it around anymore.
After Serbia I was disappointed, after Denmark I was still thinking it's early days, after Slovenia I started to worry but then thought we'd improve drastically in the knockouts.
After yesterday, I just can't see beyond another awful England performance. It's some of the worst displays I've seen since the Nations League.
At least in other tournaments there was a semblance of a team underneath all the negativity.
We had two shots on target against Slovakia in 120 minutes of football.
That's much better.
Switzerland will shred us. I said that we'd struggle badly when he announced the squad. It's utterly unbalanced has no pattern of decernible play and frankly the Shaw call should trigger some kind if mental competence test. We are bad Switzerland are decent we have a one in ten chance to win. On the eve of the tournament I said to
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"You deserve better" Southgate is about to get what he deserves.
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"You deserve better" Southgate is about to get what he deserves.