Its a better squad than west ham
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I’m just trying to understand why people want the manager sacked when they feel he can finish top 4
Yes but we knew why and spoke about this many times. We lacked a DM (the most critical problem) we lacked full back depth, we lack cover for Kane, and we could do with another CB and AM.
We bought all of these, this was the backing most people wanted Poch to have 1-2 seasons ago. We fixed the depth issue that was running us into the ground.
It was the best transfer window in Levy’s tenure. Most people thought we had a squad at least United/Chelsea strong and a bit below Liverpool/City. We only moaned we didn’t get Skrinar.
Now it’s like that brilliant window never happened, all because Jose doesn’t have a clue how to use attacking players and puts all the pressure on our weakest area our CB’s. This is a classic Ramos>Redknapp situation. A manager who has a squad not suited to his tactics but would suit an attacking manager.
Never said the players are Champo. Where did I ever say that?
Football fans overhype their chances at start of season shock horror!
A number of caveats to that:
- We never knew Doherty would be trash (though Wolves fans did warn us)
- Dele has kept up his two year run of shitness - what were people hoping for?
- Gio has barely been fit
- Reguilon is great but has injuries issues too (Davies has played far too much)
-Winks has regressed further
- We all hoped Bale wasn't just coming for a holiday - he was
- Bergjwin hasn't stepped up
- All of our centre backs have been exposed as not good enough this season.
So yes at the outset it looked like we had a good squad.
The truth is we have a bloated squad full of mediocre players.
I don’t feel he can, I think the players can with a manager who knows how to use them.
Cool, maybe you you don’t think that, but I thought you wanted Jose out?
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Diehard Spurs fan since 1977...not that it's all that important really...and I don't care whether other members think I'm 'proper Spurs' or not!I don’t mind honesty though. El Magnifico admitted he wasn’t a Spurs fan but it’s the pretence of being a Spurs fan more that winds me up.
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I don’t think people on this forum think your are Spurs fans, you turned up when or after Jose got appointed and you spend all day defending Jose and little else.
There are others who have defended Jose likeAberdeenYid
Cranston etc but we know that is a genuine defence and fair enough we all have different views. You can be a Spurs fan and like Jose or hate Poch or whatever.
But it’s frustrating as fuck to be arguing with someone without knowing if they truly are Spurs or Jose fans. Be honest, there is nothing wrong with being a Jose fan and it’s a legitimate argument but it’s the deception that makes the whole thing a bollox.
What is it with folks on here? I know lots of TFC members who are huge Spurs fans and haven't ever posted anything on the forum, they just read....and sometimes we discuss things on another medium as a smaller (more balanced) group.
I have been 'here' since around 2011 (diff email and username back then) and all I did was read and listen to the podcast occasionally while I lived in the US. The only difference is that now I'm reading things that I feel like responding to, so I do...especially when they are topics that I care about.
Personally, I don't even care if someone is here because of Jose...some are here because of Son or Kane too...not a problem to me!
Why?
Because by supporting one of our players or managers, you are also implicitly supporting SPURS...and I would never have an issue with that...and I can't understand why any true supporter would have an issue with that.
Ok well I think you came into the discussion at the wrong angle
My view is that we won’t make top 4 either.
I do, he has taken a decent squad and is making them play crap.
Right I understand from your last post your views are completely hypothetical, that we can make top 4 with a new manager
I was discussing in real time, that we won’t so might as well win some trophies
They dont. They want the manager sacked because a team with asperations and a pedigree for top 4 are 9th
West Ham team last weekend. Six points above us could go 9 points above us with a win on a sunday. Compared to ours. Why is West Ham out preforming Tottenham. It can only be poor management leading to poor preformances
West Ham
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Lukasz Fabianski - 23
Issa Diop - 15
Craig Dawson - 3
Aaron Cresswell - 5
Vladimir Coufal - 28
Tomas Soucek - 41
Declan Rice - 31
Ben Johnson - 10
Manuel Lanzini - 11
Jesse Lingard - 20
Jarrod Bowen
Substitutes
- 9
Said Benrahma
(s 82') - 14
Frederik Alves - 16
Mark Noble
(s 63') - 18
Pablo Fornals - 24
Ryan Fredericks
(s 90') - 25
David Martin - 45
Ademipo Odubeko - 54
Conor Coventry - 75
Jamal Baptiste
Spurs
- 1
Hugo Lloris - 25
Japhet Tanganga - 6
Davinson Sanchez - 15
Eric Dier
- 33
Ben Davies
- 28
Tanguy Ndombele - 5
Pierre Hojbjerg - 11
Erik Lamela
- 27
Rodrigues Lucas Moura - 7
Heung-Min Son - 10
Harry Kane
Substitutes
- 2
Matt Doherty - 4
Toby Alderweireld - 8
Harry Winks - 9
Gareth Bale
(s 72') - 12
Joe Hart - 17
Moussa Sissoko
(s 46') - 20
Dele Alli
(s 64') - 23
Steven Bergwijn - 45
Carlos Vinicius
- 1
Maybe not now as it’s too late. But start the season with say Rogers as manager and we would, for Jose with decent backing in the market to have us in 9th and trailing Moyes West Ham is a joke.
True, but that wasn’t the discussion I was having
OK out of curiosity would you keep Jose for the whole season even if we end up futher down the table? Or would there be a point you would consider his removal.
The guy I started this discussion with a guy who thinks that:
This season has taught us Jose's negative football has no place in the Premier league. We beat Woolwich because of a wonder goal and Partey got injured. We got lucky that we won that game. If we don't get a 1-0 or 2-0 lead we do jackshit.
But still thinks Jose can get 4th. Just wondered how this works
He better brush up on his Chinese methinks
So what do you think. are spurs under or over preforming?