Cmon, the 60-80min is a killer face so we should have fking killed the game.
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No but we need to control the game, that’s how we kill it off. Allowing an average side like West Ham to dictate the tempo of a game is never the correct strategy. As proven by, you know, what happened.Kill the game off? You could say that against Newcastle but at 3-0 82 mins the game is already dead. Do we really need to score 4-5 to win games now?
They're not just little things still lacking defensively and mentality wise though, they're huge long standing problems. Defensively it hasn't been good for a few years now since Jan and Toby moved passed their prime. The mentality problems and brittle temperament have been there for nearly 60 years.Guys we need to come together and stop being so fucking thickle, I purposely didn't post straight away because my emotions were running high, after some time to reflect, it was a very decent performance again just a few things still lacking defensively and mentality wise
The football is so much better now and we should be greatful because many did not see that happening, letting a 3-0 lead slip in the last 10 is not acceptable, however losing our heads and slating the team is going overboard - I'm not a fan of winks but I've seen people go in on him hard for a 15min display where his really done nothing wrong. Give it time, if we keep playing like this and improve a bit defensively we should still be in the running come christmas
Trying not to overreact here, but I feel like certainly a 0-0 (and maybe even a 0-1 loss) would've been better than that. At least we would've just moved on and called a bad day, on the other hand this will leave mental scars for all our players. This was a historic collapse, not just typical Spursy.
No chance would a 0-1 loss been better.
0-0 would have been less frustrating. We'd have kept a clean sheet and it would have been likely that Fabianski had a blinder. Throwing away any lead is fucking annoying though, especially as we are the first team to do so with so little left to play in the leagues history and it's the first time we've done it in the league since Man Utd beat us 5-3 many moons ago.
And to fucking West Ham too.
Positives to take from that game were that when we do attack we are devastating. We actually don't do too badly when it comes to limiting our opponents to clear goal scoring chances. No one got injured and we still have a fully fit Lo Celso and Gareth Bale to truly come.
In my opinion a team can only handle so many "mental setbacks" before it catches up with them and destroys the season. Last season we had like five in the first three months, and we saw how it turned out. I would say this season we've already had two (Newcastle and today). We really need to get through Christmas without any more crazy shite happening to us. Newcastle and today weren't just points dropped, they were traumatizing experiences to go through as a player.
Right, if we can get through until the next break winning just about every game, we'll be fine.We followed up that Newcastle trauma by scoring 13 goals in our next 2 games, including a 1-6 hammering of Man Utd at Old Trafford.
It's how you react. We have a Europa League game in the week and then Burnley away. Win both and relatively comfortably and we'll all be buzzing again with Brighton and West Brom coming up.
I didn't see the match, listened to it in one ear while at my daughter's match today, was absolutely buzzing when we went up 3 and it sounded like we could have been up a few more. Need to go back and watch the highlights at the least, possibly the full match. Was Davinson's og as bad as it sounded? How good was Bale's chance?
I disagree with you in a lot of things, but Moura is a liability, probably one of our worst players that offers close to nothing most of the time.He rarely wins free kicks, more often than not when he moves the ball forward he ends up losing it, rarely makes a pass, is not good at receiving passes and isn’t effective at making runs to open up space or keep the defenders honest.
At least with Son or Bergwijn on the pitch the defense has to respect his ability to run into open space, with Moura coming on there was offensive threat coming from that position.
Moura offers zero but running around and he doesn’t even do that effectively.
I think so. None in our back 4 are great pure defenders.I have to ask: Is this the worse Mourinho's defense? I have every confidence in his defense setup not to concede more than 2 goals so not sure how WH can grab 3! OK, the last goal was a worldie but that was from a stupid mistake from Winks thinking he is N'D for a second there. Even peak Barca could not get 3 goals past Inter.
I know that football is a team game but I can pin this draw down to Sanchez and Wink. Sorry to post this but it should not be a draw and we only blame ourselves.
Agree. We also had chances to score more. Conceding 3 goals in last 15 minutes is down to our defenders. None of them is the type that can put opposition attackers in the pocket. There is only so much tactic, coaching, motivating can do. The rest depends on execution.Kill the game off? You could say that against Newcastle but at 3-0 82 mins the game is already dead. Do we really need to score 4-5 to win games now?