Heysel.
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I hate the victim complex of Liverpool fans and thats never gonna change. But this is a human tragedy, just saw this
"BREAKING NEWS The BBC's Nick Ravenscroft asks the panel how many people might have been saved if there had been a better emergency service response. Dr Bill Kirkup confirms that 28 people didn't have obstruction of bloodflow and 16 had heart and lung function. He concludes that there is evidence that 41 people in total had the potential to survive."
Thats nearly half. It annoys me though that the horror of the incident is going to be transcended by a load of hysterical Liverpool fans who effectively serve to lampoon it.
"BREAKING NEWS The BBC's Nick Ravenscroft asks the panel how many people might have been saved if there had been a better emergency service response. Dr Bill Kirkup confirms that 28 people didn't have obstruction of bloodflow and 16 had heart and lung function. He concludes that there is evidence that 41 people in total had the potential to survive."
Thats nearly half. It annoys me though that the horror of the incident is going to be transcended by a load of hysterical Liverpool fans who effectively serve to lampoon it.
He apologised last year. This inquiry is about what happened, not how it was reported.kangar said:
The police and Sheffield Wednesday are in serious trouble, as is the government.
the thing that shocks me most is that almost half the victims could have been saved but south yorkshire police kept the ambulances & first aiders away!.
south yourkshire police have the blood of these fans on thier hands.
i was at the semi v wolves at hillsborough 4 years earlier sitiing above the leppings lane terrace & the excact same crush was happening, thankfully on that day a different police officer was in charge & he opened the gates & spurs fans were led to the kop end where a gap was created to accomodate them.
on both occasions the team with the bigger support was given the smaller allocation/stand at hillsborough
south yourkshire police have the blood of these fans on thier hands.
i was at the semi v wolves at hillsborough 4 years earlier sitiing above the leppings lane terrace & the excact same crush was happening, thankfully on that day a different police officer was in charge & he opened the gates & spurs fans were led to the kop end where a gap was created to accomodate them.
on both occasions the team with the bigger support was given the smaller allocation/stand at hillsborough
And Merseyside Police. They were there too.57 varieties said:
I remember it vividly. I was 13 and they used to have both semi-finals back to back on the same day. I watched it live. It was amazing that they continued to roll the film. Wouldn't happen nowadays.
What made you say that? Unrelated incident, unless you're saying they deserved it as payback?BainsXIII said:
Really hoping you don't mean what you could mean by that.BainsXIII said:
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:
south yorshire police were in charge that day.. the buck stops with chief constable duckenfield who was leading the operation that day.. i've never seen any report or heard anything or seen anything about merseyside police being at or involved at hillsborough that day.
BainsXIII said:
Completely irrelevant
Just something I read this morning on the BBC's rolling website. A Merseyside police officer said he was there on duty that day and that he feels ashamed that his force was involved in policing that day.57 varieties said:
I'm not sure why the FA don't seem to be implicated in any guilt. They allowed a succession of semi-finals to be played at a delapidated stadium and should also be held accountable.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:
fair enough on the mersey police mate!
this is the leppings lane end 4 years earleir when we played wolves in the semi!.. 38 spurs fans where hospitalised with crush injuries that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0
for me, today is about the families involved being publicly apologised to, and those accountable finally becoming so.
this isn't a sporting victory, nor one for Liverpool football club, contrary to the way some are treating it.
the heysel comment wasn't meant to offend, but I think it's important to remember that while the innocent deserve sympathy, some of those that seem to be basking in it don't.
JFT96.
this isn't a sporting victory, nor one for Liverpool football club, contrary to the way some are treating it.
the heysel comment wasn't meant to offend, but I think it's important to remember that while the innocent deserve sympathy, some of those that seem to be basking in it don't.
JFT96.
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:
Guess they neither set the safety regulations or police them
Could've happened to literally any club with a decent following I guess. From what my dad's said in the past, it happened frequently. He was at the game in your video, but by some freak accident he was seated rather than standing (he always used to be standing). Not that there was any deaths at this game, but it does make you realise how lucky you can be. If things had have gone wrong on that particular day, I wonder how different the news reports would be.57 varieties said:
But it was their competition and they chose to hold the match there. They should be responsible for checking it meets adequate safety requirements.Blanchflower said: