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Abbey Yid said:Could anybody quickly summarize what's happened this morning then?
Tried looking through the trending stuff on twitter but nobody seems to be linking any articles and it's hard to be succint in 140 characters!
He apologised last year. This inquiry is about what happened, not how it was reported.kangar said:Would love to see MacKenzie on newsnight. He needs a grilling.
Cheers, didn't realise a report was being released today. Assumed somebody at the Sun was in hot water for an article but I thought wrong!Steed_Train said:Abbey Yid said:Could anybody quickly summarize what's happened this morning then?
Tried looking through the trending stuff on twitter but nobody seems to be linking any articles and it's hard to be succint in 140 characters!
BBC coverage is good
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19570810
And Merseyside Police. They were there too.57 varieties said:the thing that shocks me most is that almost half the victims could have been saved but south yorkshire police kept the ambulances & first aiders away!.
south yourkshire police have the blood of these fans on thier hands.
i was at the semi v wolves at hillsborough 4 years earlier sitiing above the leppings lane terrace & the excact same crush was happening, thankfully on that day a different police officer was in charge & he opened the gates & spurs fans were led to the kop end where a gap was created to accomodate them.
on both occasions the team with the bigger support was given the smaller allocation/stand at hillsborough
What made you say that? Unrelated incident, unless you're saying they deserved it as payback?BainsXIII said:Heysel.
Really hoping you don't mean what you could mean by that.BainsXIII said:Heysel.
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:And Merseyside Police. They were there too.57 varieties said:the thing that shocks me most is that almost half the victims could have been saved but south yorkshire police kept the ambulances & first aiders away!.
south yourkshire police have the blood of these fans on thier hands.
i was at the semi v wolves at hillsborough 4 years earlier sitiing above the leppings lane terrace & the excact same crush was happening, thankfully on that day a different police officer was in charge & he opened the gates & spurs fans were led to the kop end where a gap was created to accomodate them.
on both occasions the team with the bigger support was given the smaller allocation/stand at hillsborough
BainsXIII said:Heysel.
Just something I read this morning on the BBC's rolling website. A Merseyside police officer said he was there on duty that day and that he feels ashamed that his force was involved in policing that day.57 varieties said:Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:And Merseyside Police. They were there too.57 varieties said:the thing that shocks me most is that almost half the victims could have been saved but south yorkshire police kept the ambulances & first aiders away!.
south yourkshire police have the blood of these fans on thier hands.
i was at the semi v wolves at hillsborough 4 years earlier sitiing above the leppings lane terrace & the excact same crush was happening, thankfully on that day a different police officer was in charge & he opened the gates & spurs fans were led to the kop end where a gap was created to accomodate them.
on both occasions the team with the bigger support was given the smaller allocation/stand at hillsborough
south yorshire police were in charge that day.. the buck stops with chief constable beekson who was leading the operation that day.. i've never seen any report or heard anything or seen anything about merseyside police being at or involved at hillsborough that day.
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:I'm not sure why the FA don't seem to be implicated in any guilt. They allowed a succession of semi-finals to be played at a delapidated stadium and should also be held accountable.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:I'm not sure why the FA don't seem to be implicated in any guilt. They allowed a succession of semi-finals to be played at a delapidated stadium and should also be held accountable.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
Could've happened to literally any club with a decent following I guess. From what my dad's said in the past, it happened frequently. He was at the game in your video, but by some freak accident he was seated rather than standing (he always used to be standing). Not that there was any deaths at this game, but it does make you realise how lucky you can be. If things had have gone wrong on that particular day, I wonder how different the news reports would be.57 varieties said:Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:I'm not sure why the FA don't seem to be implicated in any guilt. They allowed a succession of semi-finals to be played at a delapidated stadium and should also be held accountable.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
fair enough on the mersey police mate!
this is the leppings lane end 4 years earleir when we played wolves in the semi!.. 38 spurs fans where hospitalised with crush injuries that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0
But it was their competition and they chose to hold the match there. They should be responsible for checking it meets adequate safety requirements.Blanchflower said:Schoolboy'sOwnStuff said:I'm not sure why the FA don't seem to be implicated in any guilt. They allowed a succession of semi-finals to be played at a delapidated stadium and should also be held accountable.
Unless they already were in the original Taylor report.
Guess they neither set the safety regulations or police them