Giovani Lo Celso

[TheSpurEst]

Yep he and Ndombele were both good signings on the face of it: young, talented and highly rated players with a lot of potential.

Two years later it's safe to say neither have completely delivered due to fitness/attitude/poor coaching issues or whatever.

That being said, I will always give more slack to proper "footballers" ahead of the Winks, Sissokos and Diers of this world.

These two have bags of talent and we need to add more technical ability to the squad not take it away. The bulk of our squad are plodders.

Also, there's no way we get anywhere near what we paid for them so no point selling at a discount to then have to replace them and still add to the squad further.

Yep, pretty much agreed to everything you said.

I would not use the logic "we will not recoup what we paid for" as sole argument not to sell, cause sometimes the value could further decrease and in that instance it might make sense to sell player at half the purchase price, but I don't think neither Lo Celso nor Ndombele would be the case.

But yea, if we look at them together, it is really painful to think - we shipped out 108 million euros and got ... well.. two wild cards. While generally speaking buying 2 players worth 54 mil each could and should be expected to be star-players. Though it could be worse, we could have paid 80 mil for an absolute crap from France like gooners did the same summer

Really-really hope that new coach can find a way to use midfield of
--Ndombele---Lo Celso------
----------Hjojberg--------------

With sufficient help from CB, fullbacks and AM department.

 

[Spursidol]

Last time Lo Celso started against Chile, 2 months after joining Spurs and after 2 short sub appearances, he was badly crocked and missed next couple of months.

Prayers required this time ?

 

[Doc]

Playing very well for Argentina. Looking forward to seeing more of Gio, Ndombele and Bergwijn post Mourinho. A shame that 18 months of coaching malpractice has convinced many that these players aren't up to it.

 

[FightingIllini]

Last time Lo Celso started against Chile, 2 months after joining Spurs and after 2 short sub appearances, he was badly crocked and missed next couple of months.

Prayers required this time ?

I know, that’s the thing.

If he can stay fit he’s gonna look great playing Fonseca-ball. He’s the anithesis of a Mourinho player.

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

Just started watching the Argentina game now, but the opinion on Gio on his first half seems to be very positive:

 

[JDM]

Lo Celso always seems to play well for Argentina, it’s amazing what happens when he can players around him that show movement and have basic football IQ. If he can stay fit he is a very good player.

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

If he can stay fit he’s gonna look great playing Fonseca-ball.

+1

Fonseca's possession based attacking style of play could really suit him. He's got the talent to unlock packed defences.

 

[Spursidol]

BBC had Lo Celso as left hand player in a CM3 - although I'd guess one of those most forward of the CM3.

 

[ArcspacE]

I know, that’s the thing.

If he can stay fit he’s gonna look great playing Fonseca-ball. He’s the anithesis of a Mourinho player.

What is Fonseca-ball?

 

[bonaspur23]

The guy has intelligence and a bit of fight in him too. Just annoys me that he can’t strike a ball. A lot of under hit passes and slow curling shots.

 

[KEDS]

The guy has intelligence and a bit of fight in him too. Just annoys me that he can’t strike a ball. A lot of under hit passes and slow curling shots.

With a functioning system around him and less niggles/injuries, he’ll come great.

Many seem to have forgot he was our most consistent player during the 2nd half of ‘19-‘20 season.

 

[1882]

What is Fonseca-ball?

Found it:​

www.dictionary.com​

Fonseca-Ball [ fon-sek-uh-bawl]​

noun​

1. the act of defining, or of making footballers better. Giving definite, distinct, or clear instruction to humans of a lower IQ, but who also happen to be multimillionaire sportsmen : We need a better tactical definition of his attacking and positional responsibilities.

2. The opposite of outdated Portugese Dinosaur-Ball

3. '80s Double-Act icon Bobby's Portugese Uncle!

 

[Skooch]

What is Fonseca-ball?

It's the new Subbuteo limited edition

 

[Beech]

I think he's decent and would keep him, unlike many other players we have. But the fact he plays in the same national side as Messi really does do funny things with some Spurs fans view of him as a player, in my opinion.

 

[ElTel]

I've had enough of "if he stays fit " players

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

Just started watching the Argentina game now, but the opinion on Gio on his first half seems to be very positive:

No wonder he played well the number 13 in that shot looks like you'd need to politely request pro nouns. I initially thought it was the women's game.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

 

[Airfixx]

I think he's decent and would keep him, unlike many other players we have. But the fact he plays in the same national side as Messi really does do funny things with some Spurs fans view of him as a player, in my opinion.

Weird take....

Does the same apply to Foyth (and Lamela before him)?

....I doubt most even watch Argentina games.

 

[enfield1985]

Who the heck is this he looks nothing like the player who played for us last season.

 

[cphspurs]

Saw the game yesterday.
Lo Celso should have had 3 very good assists yesterday...all 3 wasted by their forwards.
The game was slow paced but Lo Celso did his job well in the 10.

Lo Celso played got his PL starting debut in Dec2019.
Between Jan-Mar, he played very well in deep role...only we lost our entire attack losing likes of Kane, Son, Bergwijn to injuries.

Then in most of 2020, he was played in right wing where he was least effective. In addition, 2019/20 season he played with pain. meds for his thigh injury. Not many of our fans take this into account.

IMO, Lo Celso has to be played either close to the striker, behind Kane...or deep midfield receiving ball from CB. Being moved to the right side is his worst case sceanrio. I hope Fonseca knows how to use him and use accordingly.